Didn't have a good night either, though it looks like northerners had a better time than southerners, Went out before sunset to set up scope and thought I'd check out the moon which was fine, Excelent though variable views which improved as it got darker. Thought the 'scenery' on offer was pretty good actually. Some of the time got reasonable views with 7mm lens, other times got severe wobles with a 32mm - seems a lot to do with vapour trails from jets, Tried alligning and had variable success with this also. Did solar system align with the moon before sunset and tracked it for ages but later on tried 2 start alligns with Pollux and Arcturus, then Mizar and Pollux but never seened to get it quite right. I find the red spot too bright and it seems a bit hit and miss. Got it perfect the other night but struggled last night, Gave up long before Saturn was an option.....Wanted a look at M65 but didn't budget for the moon..... Source: Mildly underwealmed