Thank you for your response. I start my observing from around 11pm through to 2-3am. That is usually best times in Denmark. I've managed to see Jupiter and Saturn to quite high detail in my scope, I have not seen any star clusters yet, I did try one night, pointing it in the rough direction but again, didn't see anything. I have also tried slewing through rough areas of DSO which gave no results, i did that just to see if i was just pointing in the wrong place. I tried viewing Andromeda, and all I had was the same typical white dot in the sky, I have collimated my mirrors with both the non laser and laser collimator and it is in perfect collimation, and I am able to gain focus on the white "dots" in the sky to very crisp focus. Next chance I get I will try some of your tips to see if my results are any better. Are there apps and such you recommend to find DSO locations? Right now I use skyview free/lite, I'm assuming it is not the app's fault in my failed attempts at finding targets? as it has pretty high ratings plus I'm assuming my scope is capable enough of seeing quite a few DSO? Thanks again.