gorke

On 16/3/2017 at 15:28, masp said:

...As I told, in Android I have no problems, but in PC Yes!. I consider to make the Bluetooth module. 

ummm, you´re using Android and APP Virtuoso with Bluetooth module, like HC-06. And you are trying the CP2303HX with laptop. it´s like this?? Both without HC... Pinout from Rj11 are the same (BT needs Vcc 5V). With PC it´s necesary DriverAzGoto and Ascom Plataform to use Cartes du Ciel and Scope if you are goint to use stellarium.

Check the cable (only 3 wires are needed) and Port number. Restart Windows, or even better, off and let a couple of minutes pass

Get luck!!

On 9/3/2017 at 13:36, masp said:

... and I tried, with that  PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v1.8.19 version and others! Until now I haven´t out  "The write operation timeout has been exceeded" .  I will, tried again. Thank you

Ok, no communication... What pin out on RJ11 are you used??? I used  GND, TX, NC, Rx. So you only are going to need 3 cables. In PL2303HX GND to GND, Rx to TX and TX to RX

Install PL2303_Prolific_Driver, in control panel from Windows note port it´s using... What Windows version are you using?? Ascom, Driver Virtuoso...???

Try to install StellariumScope Bundle. It will going to install Stellarium Scope, stellarium, Ascom 6 and Drivers FTDI for usb serial 

https://sourceforge.net/projects/synscanstellari/

I first install PL2303HX driver and then these pack. and all work!!

I have recorded a video to show you how I do it...

1 hour ago, masp said:

 I'm in this alley ... if anything happens to you or someone, thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Friend!!! I have given a clarification. I used PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v1.8.19 

I just read it, it says it in the last line

Notice: For Stellarium it's you need to install Stellarium Scope and run Stellarium using Stellarium Scope shortcut.

http://teleskopy.pl/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=3376&language=en&lunety=Przewód_kabel_USB_do_SkyWatcher_Virtuoso,_d³ugo¶æ_2_metry

51 minutes ago, masp said:

Thank you Gorke,

I already made a cable with the USB / TTL Prolific PL2303 TA chip,  without resistor. But I have ERROR in the connection from CDC or StellariumScope, the same error "The write operation timeout has been exceeded".

For me it's strange the cable works well on the Virtuoso App with the TX and the RX in any of the positions, it moves to one side and the other.

On the PC I changed several versions of drivers (prolific, Ascom, etc ...) on two PCs running Windows 7 and 10 with access to .NET 3.5.1 and 4.6 ... But nothing! Always the same error "The write operation timeout has been exceeded". I'm in this alley ... if anything happens to you or someone, thank you in advance.

 

 

 

I finally got it !!! With CP2303 direct to mount and Cartes du Ciel...Not worked with stellarium. I suppose that with Stellarium I´ll need scope. Through the HC Synscan it´s not neccesary scope, only stellarium

Only one question, level voltage virtuoso mount are 3,29 volt (Rx and Tx) But HC Synscan are 0 and -8V  To use HC it´s necesary a USB-232 adapter (non TTL levels)

I can´t understand why it´s necessary the resistor with HC-06 Bluetouth module

With CP2102 I don´t get any satisfactory results

On 15/2/2017 at 17:23, masp said:

Hi...

I am newcomer of the list. My question probably already had an answer... I am trying to understand how to make the cable connect to Virtuoso Mount to PC windows 10. Someone can tell me what type of USB UART TTL adapter... (the chipset should I choose) 6p or 4p ? Rj11 or rj12?... 

Best to all

Hello

I am doing it!! You only need 4p in RJ11 and a USB/TTL module, CP2102 or PL2303hx (I read that the CP2102 was better, I have CP2101 and waiting PL2303HX...). I think you neet to use a  voltage divide too like Bluetooth module. More important is driver for your windows ;-)

http://www.silabs.com/products/mcu/pages/usbtouartbridgevcpdrivers.aspx

And for PL2303hx looking for "PL2303_Prolific_DriverInstaller_v1.8.19", I read that with v1.9 DON´T WORK

I made the cable with CP2102 direct to RJ11 and don´t work!!! 

In this page, send the cable and says work at 3,3V 

http://teleskopy.pl/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=3376&language=en&lunety=Przewód_kabel_USB_do_SkyWatcher_Virtuoso,_d³ugo¶æ_2_metry

P.D. If you are going to put a couple or resistor,I think that 4,7K and 10K is better.... My GoTo mount, with the mount BT, was broken. I used 47 ohm and 100 ohm and work a few minutes, but then...

When I get the whole summary working 

2 minutes ago, happy-kat said:

Will you be making a neat project box for all the connections next?

Of course, I am testing everything and I will put everything in a small box. 

Finally works !!!!       The module works at 5V, but the connection must be made with TTL values of 3.3V. A voltage divider, like schematics, it´s necesary and all correct. I had used 4,7K and 10K that I had at home. 

Many thanks to everyone and especially to @RTamerand @Tonyjl

7 minutes ago, RTamer said:

@Gorke - The best way to test the scope to see if the bluetooth is working before you do anything with Stellarium, or Stellariumscope, is to use the Virtuoso App on an Android device, i.e. cellphone, or tablet.  The app is free and you can test the bluetooth connection, and the movement of the scope right away without having to worry about the pc programs at the moment.  First and foremost is the connection.

Yes, I have Virtuoso App installed in my Android tablet. I selected bluetooth HC-06 module, the led stops blinking but APP ware blocked, same behavior as CP2101 USB-TTL or MAX232.

I´m going later to probe open stellariumscope (with handpad not is necesary) as video I´ve seen

Thank for all

With Bluetooth module does not work either... So, the mount is fine. Yesterday I could try on another mount and pin Tx and RX is short too. I probed its SynScanTM AZ hand controller, making a new cable to connect PC to hand controller, and stellarium worked with both mounts, without stellariumscope, directly with stellarium 0.11.4 configuration

I´d saw this video I´ll probe. There are several differences. First use stellariumscope, second choose JNOW in stellariumscope and no close it. In stellarium choose external softwaere.... I hope work 

Hello, I think I know where the problem is ... When I connect the cable to the Virtuoso, pins 3 and 5 (signal, Tx and Rx) are shorted!! It´s no good... Just when I´d had recived bluetooth module, agggggg

Well, I´d recived my CP2102 module but there isn´t comunicaction... It´s really need stellariumscope?? I probed with Cartes du Ciel, more easy, and neither.

My netbook is a Atom proccesor so I´d had to install ver. 0.12 ATOM stellarium, I hope stellariumscope work !!

9 hours ago, RTamer said:

I'm a bit confused.  You do realise that you only need the regulator and the bluetooth module, right?  You mentioned pin #16 and C4 which references the MAX232.  The Virtuoso signal is already TTL and goes directly into the bluetooth module.  Pin #4 (11.4v) and pin #3 (Gnd) go to the regulator, then the 5v to the bluetooth module.  The MAX232 can be put up on a shelf somewhere.  You won't need it.

I apologize if I misunderstood you, I just wanted to be clear about this.

Yes, I know only need the regulator and the bluetooth module, It´s only a probe to connect my serial PC to Virtuoso until arrives the modules. And seeing the connections of the scheme and the photo of the Rj11 doubts arose. Now, thanks to you, I know the photos are correct, but the drawing confused me. I hope I did not damage the mount. Do you remember the voltages of Tx and Rx in virtuoso? Maybe I need to check it with an oscilloscope

I supply Max232 with a external 5V power  (pin16 Vcc, PIN15 GND). PIN15, PIN14 y pin13 a DB9

Cable RJ11 (4P6C) from Virtuoso like your schematic (GND, Tx, Rx y 12V) and connect:

Virtuoso ----------------- Max232 ------------------ DB9 ----------------- Serial Personal Computer with RS-232

                                      pin16      ------------ 5 V external power

GND (C2) -------------->  pin15      --------------> pin 5     

                                      pin14      --------------> pin2 (Rx PC)

                                      pin13      <-------------- pin3 (Tx PC)

Rx (C5)     <-------------- pin12

Tx (C3)     --------------> pin11 

Of course C1,C2,C3 and C4 like datasheet

When it works, I´ll supply with LM7805 through pin16 from Virtuoso C4 (11,8V)

10 hours ago, RTamer said:

@Gorke - A couple of years ago I disassembled my Heritage 90 to install bluetooth, so I have some photos and information that might help you.

First photo - This is the RJ12 (6pin) as it would be inserted in the Heritage and the pins as I measured them.  Your colors of the wiring might differ from mine.  Pin# is important.
Second photo - Top view of the board and connections.
Third photo - Voltage and signal measurements as the board is mounted in the case.  Check to see that your voltages match up to mine.
Fourth photo - 4 pin connector to be used with bluetooth module.

Things you will need:
ASCOM Drivers: http://download.ascom-standards.org/ASCOMPlatform62.exe
Stellarium Software:  http://www.stellarium.org/de/
Stellariumscope Software:  http://welshdragoncomputing.ca/x/st/setup/Setup_StellariumScope_2016.12.26.exe
Driver for Heritage 90:  In my attachments as zip file
Bluetooth HC-06 3.3v:  http://www.ebay.de/itm/HC-06-Wireless-Bluetooth-Slave-Modul-fur-Arduino-RS232-/201448256635?hash=item2ee740747b:g:pFQAAOSwImRYbPZd
Connector 4pin (audio cable from old computer works well)
12v to 5v Power Converter (only when your bluetooth module can't be run with 3.3v):  http://www.ebay.de/itm/DC-DC-5V-38V-to3-3V-6V-12V-24V-5A-Buck-StepDown-Konverter-Module-Car-Auto-Power-/131980745446?hash=item1ebaaa5ae6:g:4wEAAOSwys5WVbAO

1. When your bluetooth module is running at 3.3v.  Insert the RJ12 into the socket with the other end free and each of the six wires stripped.  Apply power (12v), check to see that pin #1 (+) and pin #2 (-) have 3.3v (roughly).  Solder these to the respective connections on the 4 pin connector v+ and v- for the bluetooth module.  Apply 12v to the scope and check to see that you have power to the bluetooth module.

2. When your bluetooth module is running at 5v.  You will need to use pin #4 (12v) and pin #2 (gnd).  Connect them to the power converter v+ (in) and v- (in).  Connect v+ (out) and v- (out) to the bluetooth module repectively.  Apply 12v to the scope and check to see that you have power to the bluetooth module.

3. If I remember correctly, pin #3 is TX.  Connect that to RX on the bluetooth module.  Pin #5 is RX.  Connect that to TX on the bluetooth module. If it does not work, don't worry.  Just reverse them on the module later.  Important is TX>RX and RX>TX.

4. The HC-06 is delivered with pin code 1234 running at 9600 baud.  If you want to change the pin you can use any terminal program and the command AT+PIN####.  You will need a FTDI module to configure this.

5. IF YOU HAVE AN ANDROID PHONE (who doesn't).  Download the Virtuoso App and you can test the scope functions now.  Pair the devices, start the program, load the scope in the app, and test the signal.  If it doesn't work, don't worry.  Change the signal wires on the module.

6. FOR A PC:  Install the driverAzGoto from the zip file first.

7. Install the Ascom Driver.

8. Install Stellarium.

9. Install Stellariumscope.

10. Start Stellarium.  When it's finished, shut it down.  It just needed to set up the config file.

11. Start Stellariumscope.  Configure the telescope.  Choose the "DriverAzGoto".  You have to configure the driver now, gps coordinates, elevation, and so on.  After this is complete, about 2/3 down in the Stellariumscope window is a button to send this information to Stellarium.  Click and just keep clicking "Yes" in the next 3 or 4 windows.  Restart Stellariumscope.  Click the button in Stellariumscope to start Stellarium.

12. You will need to go through the settings to set up your location and everything, and the last thing is to find the telescope plugin and click "load at startup".  Shut down Stellarium, and shut down Stellariumscope.

13. Restart Stellariumscope, and restart Stellarium.  Go back to the telescope plugin and click "configure".  If there are already three scopes listed in this window, you are done.  If not, click on add and in the next window click on "external software or remote pc".  Shut everything down, restart, check for the scopes in the plugin.  If they are there (sync, cancel, scope) then you are good.

I used the 5v variant.
If I missed anything, let me know.
Have a good night.
 

DriverAzGotoByArmazemDoTelescopioSetup.zip

Thank @RTamer, Very good explication... I´m waiting for the arrival of my HC-06 and LM2596 modules. I´d probed with Cartes du Ciel and cable with Max232 to DB9 serial PC, but it was failure

When arrive my modules I probe you schematic, thank again

Thank Tonyjl, but one question.

In schematics show: Tx,Rx,+12V, GND

and RJ11 photo:       Rx,+12V,Tx GND

What´s the correct order? With my multimeter I show +12V if configure like photo...

It´s possible use Cartes du Ciel using MAX232 and DB9, with driver for SynScan AZ mounts and Ascom Platform like show in 

http://teleskopy.pl/product_info.php?currency=EUR&products_id=3376&language=en&lunety=Przewód_kabel_USB_do_SkyWatcher_Virtuoso,_d³ugo¶æ_2_metry