Which binoculars for a newbie & small budget?

[meteoriot]

I would simply get a set of 8x42 birding binoculars.

You have found that 10x's show shake so 15x will be worse handheld.

If you want a scope then keep the money for a scope. Binoculars are not a substitute for a scope. I like my binoculars but the scope's are for observing, binoculars are for looking.

The smallest scope I have is 70mm dia and I can see Jupiter and Saturn, Orion is good as are the Plaides, lots of other clusters and double stars are easily seen, basically with sense a lot of the Messiers. The whole thing is as easy to use as a set of binoculars. If you get the 15x70 binoculars you will see Jupiter as a dot and a smaller dot for Saturn. I get bands and rings. Both 70mm.

To use binoculars you will need to spend money on a decent set of binoculars and a decent tripod. Add the cost up and you have a scope on a mount.

Every astronomer should have a pair of decent bins. Even if you have a decent scope there are views through binoculars that have no substitute.

[chkm8]

Recently bought a pair of Bushnell O2 10x42 cost just over £100 in the shops but got them on Amazon for £58. A bit heavy but otherwise great binoculars.

[Celinibellini]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but are those the Lidl model mentioned earlier?

Thank you