Physics boffin wanted

[TheBFG]

Hi are there any physics minded people who can discuss an idea i have had about a practical perpetual motion machine?

[pete_l]

Yes, I am - it won't work

[TheBFG]

lol yeah i get that alot can i pm you with my idea then pete?

[davew]

Trouble is, anyone who understands Physics will probably laugh or shake their heads. Those who don't, myself included, will find it interesting.

Also..... If you want to keep your ideas secret, don't tell anyone.

[TheBFG]

True the idea is simple I can explain it in a couple of lines, i built a prototype but burnt the bearings out. Cant get anyone at all to listen to me though lol ravings of a madman.

Ihavmt the know how to properly build or do the math so have to share

[davew]

I which case change the name to " A particularly efficient machine "

If you have designed a ( near ? ) frictionless bearing, discuss with the Patent Office.

I wish you luck.

Dave.

[GrantEb]

PM'd

[geordieskies]

you've got us all intrigued now, you really must let us into the secret, we won't tell anyone.....honest :-)

[TheBFG]

Frictionless is one of the issues but i also had am idea to bypass that aswell. i mean a perpetual motion machice that could be used to say run you car or house with.

[TheBFG]

If im wrong then please shoot me down in flames at least i will stop dwelling on it

[britchall]

No matter what your idea is (unless it's a machine that changes the laws of physics) it will not work. Look up '2nd Law of Thermodynamics'!

[ollypenrice]

From where did you get the energy to burn out the bearings?

But come on, let's hear about it! this is a friendy place.

Olly

[sammy1404]

I am a physics minded person but i have no idea what that is lol

[TheBFG]

friction burnt the bearings out

[TheBFG]

I did pm grant but no response lol not sure if thats a good or bad thing

[GrantEb]

Replied. But remember all, I am no physics boffin, hehe.

[GrantEb]

As far as I can see, the idea is plausable, and as you have said, you have already burn't out a set of bearings.

Why not use magnetic bearings, almost friction less?

But then remember, for stability, you can't use permanent magnets, which means you have to get the power for them somewhere!!!

I only am commenting here on my limited knowledge and practical experience with gyroscopes etc, I am no physics boffin, lol.

Cheers

[themos]

Does it involve a DeLorean? Not interested if not.

[NickMilner]

I'm with all the "it's impossible" folks. Energy you haven't thought of is getting into your system somewhere. For example, anything that relies on solar power isn't perpetual motion because the sun won't be around forever.

/edit - if you have bearings of any kind then you're going to convert some energy in your system into heat. As soon as you lose any energy you can't have perpetual motion.

[themos]

For example, anything that relies on solar power isn't perpetual motion because the sun won't be around forever.

yes, but anything that converts solar energy into useful work efficiently would be a goldmine.

[NickMilner]

yes, but anything that converts solar energy into useful work efficiently would be a goldmine.

Absolutely. If this was a thread about efficient energy conversion then we'd have something to talk about, but since it's a thread about "perpetual motion" we really don't need to know anything about the system to know that, sadly, it's not going to work.

[TheBFG]

Cheers for the reply grantb still looking for a physics boffin though please. At least to put me out of my misery or just to scoff and chuckle. A couple of minutes reading time.

[themos]

fire away, I might as well make my PhD work...

[TheBFG]

Solar i have to admit is very cool (no pun intended) but you would have problems running your car on it

[TheBFG]

Pm'd Themos