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michaelmorris

Where to buy plastic tipped bolts?

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I'm after some plastic-tipped bolts for use in some guide scope rings. Does anyone know where I can buy some. For reasons too complicated to go into here, these have to be bolts with a built-in plastic tip, not a normal bolt with a plastic guard over the end. I think I'll need these as M6 bolts.

Any help gratefully received.

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You could try Cromwells on the Blackpole trading estate if they don.t have them in stock they can probably get you some.

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Michael, if you do a search on here there's definitely at least one supplier of these linked. I remember seeing it.

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You could try Cromwells on the Blackpole trading estate if they don.t have them in stock they can probably get you some.

Thanks for the tip Vince. I'm afraid they don't have them.

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I'm intruiged as to why they can't have the plastic tips on them (only from a purely nosey perspective I'm afraid!)?

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back in January, I found some suitable "nylon inserts" in my local B&Q. Outside diameter is 12mm, I think, and they are already threaded (hollowed out) for M6 bolts. The barcode on a pack of 10 is 3 232637 724807.

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I'm intruiged as to why they can't have the plastic tips on them (only from a purely nosey perspective I'm afraid!)?

They are for the 5" rings that is used to mount my Orion 80ED on to the back of my LX200. If the rings are much larger, the observatory roof won't close. The Orion 80ED is actually in a 102mm diameter tube so this is pretty tight in the 5" rings. The problem has come because I now want to use the 80ED as a portable scope as well as piggy-backed on the LX200. To get the 80ED out of the rings I have to either unscrew the lens cell or take off all 6 guidescope mounting screws. At present I'm unscrewing the lens cell, but I don't want to keep doing this - it's a pain and I'm worried about dropping something. Unscrewing all six screws is a pain because each one is tipped with a small plastic cup which keep getting lost and are a right PITA to put on. That is why I want plastic tipped screws - they should be easy to take in and out and no fiddly plastic caps on the ends.

The alternatives are an ultra low profile set of easily demountable and adjustable mounting rings for a 102mm tube or buy a new 80mm apochromatic scope with a narrower OTA. Plastic tipped screws struck me as the simplest and cheapest way forward.

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Some of those plastic cups disintegrate or get punctured rather easily, too. Nylon is much tougher.

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Also, are actual nylon bolts an option?

I have considered nylon bolts. However, the 80ED is sometimes used with the LX200 acting as a guidescope, I'm worried about flexure issues and I thought that nylon bolts might introduce an avoidable source of flexure.

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Plastic tipped Thumbscrews

Not terribly cheap though.

Cheers,

Andy.

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Thanks for the links to Epsilon telescopes. These do look pretty much what I'm looking for, but as Andy has stated , they are not cheap. I will need 6 of these + 2 for spares. This would cost me £2.80 x 8 + £2 P+P = >£24!

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It's pretty hellish ain't it. I gave up on my idea, when I saw the prices.

Cheers,

Andy.

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I get it. I'm with you that the plastic tipped would be better.

Good luck with your search and thanks for satisfying my curiosity!

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Do you know anyone with a lathe Mike?

Peter...

Thanks for the link Peter. I do know someone with a lathe. However, he's just done me a couple of seriously big favours and it would not be fair to ask again.

I'll keep looking.

By the way, does anyone have any experience as to whether plastic screws in guidescope rings are likely to contribute to flexure?

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I looked at and discounted nylon bolts the other day... they are pretty useless onthe laser pointer mounts so i wouldnt fancy using them for a guidescope...

pm incoming Mike...

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Sounds as though you need the screws I used to make for my rings. M6 in brass with screw in nylon inserts. Only stick out 1mm and can be replaced if neccessary. P.M me if you want further details.

cheers

Ray

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Psychobilly came up trumps with a very generous offer - thank you so much Peter. ;)

Ray - Thanks for the offer of help.

And so, onwards and upwards to the next project ....

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Knocked these up for Mike.. tips just need dressing a bit...

The M6x30 ZP bolts are £3.05 delivered for 10 off ebay... made a little mandrel to hold them in the lathe chuck whilst protecting the plastic piece and support the M6 thread, at the same time allowing it to be locked off with an M6 nut to stop it creeping back as its drilled.. drilused a center drill (3.5mm diameter by 3.5mm deep) before M4 nylon studding was friction fitted using a cordless drill and roughtly knifed off to "length"...

Peter..

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The six new plastic-tipped bolts are now safely installed in my guidescope rings atop my LX200. Swapping my 80ED between being piggy-backed on the LX200 and the HEQ5 is now a piece of cake - brilliant. Thanks Peter.

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