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Vega (the green lines are Balmer/hydrogen lines). As a hot A type star, Vega's spectrum is simple, showing a few prominent Balmer absorption lines.

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Navi. Navi rotates very fast and has thrown off a ring of gas that glows brightly on the Ha line (middle of the red area).

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WR140. This super-hot Wolf-Rayet star shows prominent emission lines that aren't hydrogen (I will try and identify them next).

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As raw spectra (no denoising, not yet calibrated for the response curve of my sensor):

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These were shot with an ASI120MM Mini, FMA135 telescope (30 mm aperture) and a Star Analyser 200 grating (about 17 mm distance to the sensor).

Vega - 0.5 second exposure

Navi - 0.5 second exposure

WR 140 - 10 x 10-second exposures, stacked in DSS

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Based on the above, I have made a rough chart of exposure time for various visual magnitudes using either the FMA135+ASI120MM or RC6+ASI485MC (using a mono bin and assuming 1/3 the effective QE vs the mono camera). This is for a relatively clean spectrum like Vega above. It looks like I could get away with a quarter of the below times (in seconds) assuming I can tolerate more noise (something more like the Navi spectrum).

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Fun fact: Navi is the first star named by a space traveller, in space.

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On 06/09/2024 at 12:00, Ags said:

Based on the above, I have made a rough chart of exposure time for various visual magnitudes

Don't forget that if you want to get an accurate continuum shape, you need a minimum total of 20 sec exposure (in a number of stacked shorter exposures) to beat variations due to seeing (scintillation)

Cheers

Robin

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On 06/09/2024 at 07:45, Ags said:

WR140. This super-hot Wolf-Rayet star shows prominent emission lines that aren't hydrogen (I will try and identify them next).

Here are a couple of good references to help with identification of lines in WR stars

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1987ApJS...65..459T/abstract

for WC/WO stars (which includes WR140)

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1995A%26AS..113..459H/abstract

for WN stars

Cheers

Robin

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Looking at the spectrum, I wonder if this star would appear visually as green? It's a truism that no stars are green, but what about this one?

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1 hour ago, Ags said:

Looking at the spectrum, I wonder if this star would appear visually as green? It's a truism that no stars are green, but what about this one?

That's an interesting thought.

I think the "no green stars" idea is based on how a black-body spectrum changes with temperature as a typical star moves through its lifestyle. Its "path" through the human eye's colour space doesn't pass through the green part. But stars are not exactly black bodies, and the metal-rich ones with multiple emission lines are presumably furthest from the vanilla black-body spectrum, so perhaps they can exhibit colours that a simple analysis wouldn't predict?

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Dr Noel Richardson has announced  a Pro-Am campaign covering the upcoming periastron period when the winds of WR140 and its companion O star collide.  Details of  the latest campaign are on the AAVSO website

https://apps.aavso.org/v2/campaigns/865

Amateur spectroscopists were also  involved in the previous two periastrons in 2008 and 2016, making radial velocity measurements to improve the orbital parameters, resulting in these papers

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011MNRAS.418....2F/abstract

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2021MNRAS.504.5221T/abstract

Cheers

Robin

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Here is Scheat with TiO, Telluric and VO lines mapped.  The user interface to add the lines is a bit basic (a text box) but that can be improved in due course.

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My notes say this is Beta Cygni, but I believe it is Beta Lyrae aka Sheliak. It is showing a little Be spike. (the spike in blue is a little photobombing star). I learned about the Chara array today, which took the following picture of the Beta Lyrae and its partially connected companion star. 

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CHARA array - Wikipedia

And here is my more humble spectroscopic observation of the primary. I had to smooth the spectrum a lot as the data shows a sawtooth pattern and I don't know how to avoid that yet.

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