Icesheet Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Celestron have just posted this announcement 📣 Could it be a RASA 6 f2.2?. I would be on the list for that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 330mm focal length. Nice, assuming it can cover an APSc chip. Pity the F ratio is so slow, though. (More seriously, 2.2 squared is 4.84. The 2 squared of the RASA 8 is 4. The difference is not totally insignificant at these speeds. Still, not a big deal!) Olly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosun21 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I personally don't see what's innovative about making a product you already produce smaller. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icesheet Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ollypenrice said: 330mm focal length. Nice, assuming it can cover an APSc chip. Pity the F ratio is so slow, though. (More seriously, 2.2 squared is 4.84. The 2 squared of the RASA 8 is 4. The difference is not totally insignificant at these speeds. Still, not a big deal!) Olly It would be great if it did cover apsc but I wonder if that might affect RASA8 sales? Suppose it depends how they might price it . 26 minutes ago, bosun21 said: I personally don't see what's innovative about making a product you already produce smaller. Am I missing something? I should add I’m only speculating based on the 335mm FL I see in the background here. It could be something else too. Edited January 6 by Icesheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosun21 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just now, Icesheet said: It would be great if it did cover apsc but I wonder if that might affect RASA8 sales? Suppose it depends how they might price it . I should add I’m only speculating here based on the 335mm FL I see in the background here. It could be something else too. A new smart scope perhaps? They don't presently have a horse in this race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icesheet Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 15 minutes ago, bosun21 said: A new smart scope perhaps? They don't presently have a horse in this race. It could be. If the picture hints at anything then it does look like a reflector of sorts. A fully automated RASA6? If it was something like that they would need to pitch it right as their market would be intermediate to advanced users and I feel many of those are still skeptical of smart scopes in general. Especially if it limits use of the equipment you already have. The SeeStar has been a success for sure but I feel a lot of that is the low price and the appeal to the beginner market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosun21 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Icesheet said: It could be. If the picture hints at anything then it does look like a reflector of sorts. A fully automated RASA6? If it was something like that they would need to pitch it right as their market would be intermediate to advanced users and I feel many of those are still skeptical of smart scopes in general. Especially if it limits use of the equipment you already have. The SeeStar has been a success for sure but I feel a lot of that is the low price and the appeal to the beginner market. 100% Agree 👍. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) What the RASA needs, based on two years and hundreds of hours use, are the following: - A system of collimation which leaves the camera in place. - A system of tilt adjustment which leaves the camera in place. If these could be managed remotely, or even automated into the system, the RASA would be perfect. - A built-in slide drawer. Olly Edited January 6 by ollypenrice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Also posted here earlier: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertI Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) I was also thinking/hoping a robotic EAA scope of some sort. I think the Seestar et al have proven the demand. Interestingly many (most?) users of the Seestar, Unistellar, etc seem to be using them for imaging (ie: long integration times with post processing) instead of EVAA (ie: near real time ‘live’ viewing). I’m more into EVAA myself, and although I'm very tempted by a Seestar, it only really seems to work well for EVAA on the brightest objects, which is a bit limiting. So I’d be very interested in something that can go deeper more quickly even if it’s more expensive. Edited January 6 by RobertI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, ollypenrice said: What the RASA needs, based on two years and hundreds of hours use, are the following: - A system of collimation which leaves the camera in place. - A system of tilt adjustment which leaves the camera in place. If these could be managed remotely, or even automated into the system, the RASA would be perfect. - A built-in slide drawer. Those would be nice, for sure. One disadvantage of the RASA 8 is limited back focus which restricts your options with respect to collimation and tilt adjustment. The RASA 11, on the other hand, has much more space to play with, and a solution which works well (although, as usual, expensively) is the Baader UFC system, including its tilt adjuster which may be tweaked with the camera in place. The UFC also allows space for a filter drawer. Full automation of tilt and collimation would be great – I'm thinking of something like Starlight Xpress Active Optic guiding system – but we're getting into expensive realms here! Tony Edited January 6 by AKB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Elp said: Also posted here earlier: Whatever it is, we are all doing just what they want us to do! lly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGael Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I wonder if the innovation will be in the optics, covering aps c properly in a 6 inch. Then again, listening to many users, collimation and tilt adjustment in situ would be useful. On the other side, I wonder if they are going for a smaller system with wider field to give an option for 1inch and smaller sensors with tiny pixels, which are now available as cooled options? That's a way to get a decent fov like a smallish frac with easier tilt needs and ok pixel scale on 2.4 -2.9 um pixels? But, this announcement could show something from left field, we only see the rasa-esque front part. I'm curious though, come to appreciate small imaging packages in a backyard setup these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, ollypenrice said: Whatever it is, we are all doing just what they want us to do! lly Buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGael Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Forgot to add, maybe they'll go with focusing built-in to the camera attachment optics at the front? Unlike RCs, i dont think there is any primary to secondary distance to respect, so that might work... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGael Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Nothing to do but think when waiting at the bus stop.....😃 They emphasized BIG, so what if they went the honders route, or some variant as a fast, short astrograph a la Riccardo honders e.g.? Edited January 6 by GalaxyGael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 53 minutes ago, Elp said: Buy? No, doing their publicity networking for them... Olly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigella Bryant Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Someone wrote on cloudy nights "it is a rasa 6 on a little robotic mount,, a little much for a beginner, it was leaked a while back" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elp Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I'd doubt they'd make it difficult to use, Starsense shows how they're trying to make things easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalaxyGael Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Ah, so some sort of turnkey robotic 6inch Rasa with inbuilt camera maybe, celestron version of the small robotic systems but faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icesheet Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 It would be such a waste if they built a robotic RASA 6 and did not then offer just a standalone RASA6 for those that wanted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 57 minutes ago, Icesheet said: It would be such a waste if they built a robotic RASA 6 and did not then offer just a standalone RASA6 for those that wanted it. I agree, but maybe it comes with a 'baby sized' camera. Personally, I hope it a cloud gun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollypenrice Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 33 minutes ago, Clarkey said: I agree, but maybe it comes with a 'baby sized' camera. Personally, I hope it a cloud gun. Well, in a way F2 systems are cloud guns... Oly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomato Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If the RASA is a cloud gun, mine is shooting blanks… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saac Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, tomato said: If the RASA is a cloud gun, mine is shooting blanks… The condition seems to have spread to other telescopes too, maybe we have another pandemic on our hands Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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