New camera: ASI461MM Pro -- 101MP, $14,800!

[Lee_P]

Just spotted, more details here.

Sensor: 3.4″ CMOS Sony-IMX461ALR-C
QE peak：91%
Back focus length:17.5mm/22.5mm
Max fps: 3.77fps
Full well: 50.3Ke
Shutter: Rolling shutter
Resolution: 101.99Mega Pixel,11656*8750
Pixel Size: 3.76µm
Exposure Range: 32μs~2000s
Interface: USB 3.0 Type-B
Protect window: D79.3-4 AR
ADC: 16bit
Dimension: 43.856mm*32.9mm
Weight: 910g
Working Temperature: -5℃~50℃
Storage Temperature: -10℃~60℃
Working Relative Humidity: 0-80%
Supported OS: WIN7/8/10 32&64、Linux、Mac

 

Edited August 12, 2022 by Lee_P

[wimvb]

Not many scopes can support a 55 mm diagonal. And any filters worth having will cost another fortune

[StuartT]

7 minutes ago, wimvb said:

Not many scopes can support a 55 mm diagonal. And any filters worth having will cost another fortune

agree. Hard to see the market for this - not amateurs anyway

[Steve Ward]

Not even 4 fps , I'll pass ... 🤣

[wimvb]

More and more amateurs nowadays pool resources for large scopes in remote areas. These will be the main target group for this model, I’d think. Also, sites where you can hire imaging times would be potential customers.

Btw, 44*33 mm strictly isn’t medium format. Medium format roll film cameras were 60*60 mm (Hasselblad) or 60*45 mm (Pentax). This sensor is still half the size of a Pentax 645. Otoh, not many focusers could support such a camera, weight wise.

[gorann]

Would be a nice match for this scope:

 

[DaveS]

QHY Have had the 411 and 461 for a while now, but been a bit cagy about price. "If you have to ask how much..." The 411 ia a bit of a monster.

[DaveS]

50 mm square filters will work with the IMX 461 sensor, so expensive but not exotic, and a Tak FSQ 106 will easily cover the diagonal (88 mm image circle).

[900SL]

If it develops an oil leak you'll need a big bucket

[scotty38]

On 12/08/2022 at 15:19, wimvb said:

More and more amateurs nowadays pool resources for large scopes in remote areas. These will be the main target group for this model, I’d think. Also, sites where you can hire imaging times would be potential customers.

Btw, 44*33 mm strictly isn’t medium format. Medium format roll film cameras were 60*60 mm (Hasselblad) or 60*45 mm (Pentax). This sensor is still half the size of a Pentax 645. Otoh, not many focusers could support such a camera, weight wise.

My Mamiya RB67 Pro SD was, you guessed it, 6x7 cm 🙂 There were quite a few variations that made use of the flexible 120 roll film format.....

[wimvb]

2 hours ago, scotty38 said:

My Mamiya RB67 Pro SD was, you guessed it, 6x7 cm 🙂 There were quite a few variations that made use of the flexible 120 roll film format.....

Hasselblad nowadays also have a 44 x 33 mm sensor, but with 50 MP resolution. The price is half that of the new ASI.

I sold my Hassie years ago, and used the funds to get into astrophotography.

[DaveS]

If you want a 6x6 sensor, QHY 6060 or FLI Kepler 6060.

Make sure you're sitting down before looking at the price.

[DaveS]

Fuji appear to be the current best exponents of the "Larger than 35mm" cameras at very reasonable prices. I think they use their own sensors, but don't quote me on that.

[wimvb]

1 hour ago, DaveS said:

Fuji appear to be the current best exponents of the "Larger than 35mm" cameras at very reasonable prices. I think  …, but don't quote me on that.

Ok

😉

Edited August 14, 2022 by wimvb

[gorann]

The the area of the sensor on this new camera is actually only 40 % bigger than the ASI6200 but costs nearly 4 times more. Other than size the sensors appear to have identical properties. I think this is a good argument for making 2-panel mosaics with the smaller sensor, with most likely better star shapes in the corners😆

[Richard_]

The camera is now listed on FLO. I wonder if it'll be in the ZWO summer sale? 😂

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi461mm-pro.html

[Lee_P]

3 hours ago, Richard_ said:

The camera is now listed on FLO. I wonder if it'll be in the ZWO summer sale? 😂

https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi461mm-pro.html

Given the price tag, this is what I'd expect...

[Ags]

9 hours ago, gorann said:

The the area of the sensor on this new camera is actually only 40 % bigger than the ASI6200 but costs nearly 4 times more. Other than size the sensors appear to have identical properties. I think this is a good argument for making 2-panel mosaics with the smaller sensor, with most likely better star shapes in the corners😆

You could get 2 ASI6200s and image with twice the speed/area for half the price! 

[wimvb]

For that price you could get 3 x EQ6-R with on each a SW 190MN and an ASI294MM with filter set and OAG (no guide camera), and a coffee. 😄

[Ags]

Finally a camera worthy of my ST80!