Risingcam IMX571 not a gamble?

[Stuart1971]

Superb images, very impressive…. 👍🏼

[tooth_dr]

40 minutes ago, AmritNZ said:

have a tilt plate so will eventually try fix but not enough clear skies for such time consuming experimentation, wish i could do that in the day time

See here:

How to adjust tilt during the day

 

[Stuart1971]

On 08/11/2021 at 17:33, CedricTheBrave said:

Really pleased with mine, as stated above the order process was faultless and the package bomb proof delivered on the day they said it would.

In use its Good the only issue I have had was the window fogging up when it was very heavy dew last week. This was when it was running at -10 so lifted it up to -5 and it went away.

Mine came with two adapters power supply (UK) and Good usb3 cable in a very sturdy foam filled case

I thought this version had the heated window, it’s shown on Aliexpress as having it…??

[CedricTheBrave]

59 minutes ago, Stuart1971 said:

I thought this version had the heated window, it’s shown on Aliexpress as having it…??

it does but its not very powerful.

[tomato]

I've been notified that my OSC version is now with UK Customs, so hopefully will be getting a bill from them soon and then not much longer to wait.

Thanks @AmritNZ for your post and wonderful images, nothing like hearing about some first hand experience.

Edited November 29, 2021 by tomato

[ONIKKINEN]

16 hours ago, Stuart1971 said:

I thought this version had the heated window, it’s shown on Aliexpress as having it…??

I personally have not noticed fogging of the sensor window in very humid weather. Apparently this is one of the things where your mileage may vary.

[nightster]

I emailed Eddie several times, he answered all the questions I would of expected him to answer. He couldn't comment about those other blue cams on AliX, but I didn't expect to get that answer. Felt a lot better after that discusion, ordered through AliX, UPS shipping, they sent me a tracking number with schedule Dec 15, about 12 days total, from China to east coast US. I did suggest to Eddie that they thread the other side of the Female M42, the surface that protrudes out a few mm,  with a Male M48 and then its possible to get a bit closer to the corrector lens if you got that cursed 55mm back focus problem. (Please stop designing corrective optics only for DSLRs) Sorry, had to be said. I am switching from my trusty SX USBFW to their Mini with integrated OAG, much smaller back focus. Terry has a M48 nose piece that he modifies(ask for this special) for the cameras with 17.5 BF and said it gets the distances right close to spec.  Was hoping to use my existing wheel, has been bullet proof, but the BF would require permanent modifications, drilling cutting grinding. The Mini is not that expensive. The old one is sellable. I know Mini only holds 5x36mm. I am only putting L, Ha, Sii, and Oiii  and a black blank for darks. We have ASI2600MC in the obsy and will be using that for RGB.  Will get L and NB from the 'ATR3.' They need a much better Model number for this thing. RC26, RCam2600?...something. So very excited, believe I got a workable back focus plan, and moving from 12nm Astronomiks to 6nm is another big change. My obsy partner has theASI2600MM with those same 6nm filters and the results are stunning with this sensor.  We plan on doinig a full side by side of this cam vs the ASI2600 vs the QHY268 which there are 2 others used at our club's dark site. Put them all on the same optics for an hour or so, same target same night, same weather and try to see if there's a difference. Let me know if anyone is interested in that data. Should be a fun test, plus will allow me to really dial in, flat field, tilt, focus, cable routing all the stuff we obsess over. 

[nfotis]

Logically, the three cameras you mention should offer similar performance.

Looking forward to your results,

N.F.

 

[barbulo]

Following with interest and looking forward to see the comparison. 

[tomato]

After a bit of a hiccup on the final leg of the journey, the camera has been delivered today, a little under 4 weeks from placing the order.

The camera was well packaged and comes in a foam filled carry case, also supplied with a 12v PS and what looks like a decent (non ribbon) USB3 cable. A rudimentary 1.25 and 2” adapters are also supplied. After loading the native Touptek driver, the camera connected to NINA OK, the cooling profile is a lot gentler than the QHY version, but it gets there.

Comparing the cameras side by side, the RisingCam is a bit smaller and looks slightly less robust, it’s also a bit lighter, but that’s a good thing, right? The fasteners look to be stainless steel, and there is a 2 port USB hub, not that I need it.

I will post a side by side performance comparison coupled to the Esprits, but this will take a bit of time as they are currently off the mount.

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by tomato
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[Stuart1971]

18 minutes ago, tomato said:

After a bit of a hiccup on the final leg of the journey, the camera has been delivered today, a little under 4 weeks from placing the order.

The camera was well packaged and comes in a foam filled carry case, also supplied with a 12v PS and what looks like a decent (non ribbon) USB3 cable. A rudimentary 1.25 and 2” adapters are also supplied. After loading the native Touptek driver, the camera connected to NINA OK, the cooling profile is a lot gentler than the QHY version, but it gets there.

Comparing the cameras side by side, the RisingCam is a bit smaller and looks slightly less robust, it’s also a bit lighter, but that’s a good thing, right? The fasteners look to be stainless steel, and there is a 2 port USB hub, not that I need it.

I will post a side by side performance comparison coupled to the Esprits, but this will take a bit of time as they are currently off the mount.

Glad it’s arrived safe and sound, the colour looks lighter than on the aliexpress site, not that it matters…I went for the QHY colour option in the end as it was on offer at MA for £1650 So went for it….👍🏼

768 wow that is a large offset…😮

Edited December 9, 2021 by Stuart1971

[tooth_dr]

22 minutes ago, tomato said:

After a bit of a hiccup on the final leg of the journey, the camera has been delivered today, a little under 4 weeks from placing the order.

The camera was well packaged and comes in a foam filled carry case, also supplied with a 12v PS and what looks like a decent (non ribbon) USB3 cable. A rudimentary 1.25 and 2” adapters are also supplied. After loading the native Touptek driver, the camera connected to NINA OK, the cooling profile is a lot gentler than the QHY version, but it gets there.

Comparing the cameras side by side, the RisingCam is a bit smaller and looks slightly less robust, it’s also a bit lighter, but that’s a good thing, right? The fasteners look to be stainless steel, and there is a 2 port USB hub, not that I need it.

I will post a side by side performance comparison coupled to the Esprits, but this will take a bit of time as they are currently off the mount.

Congrats on the purchase.  I am also very keen to see how the camera works out.   I agree it does look a bit less robust and there also doesnt seem to be any way to adjust the faceplate of the camera to correct tilt.  Whats the back focus camera, looks to be less that 17.5mm?

[Stuart1971]

7 minutes ago, tooth_dr said:

Congrats on the purchase.  I am also very keen to see how the camera works out.   I agree it does look a bit less robust and there also doesnt seem to be any way to adjust the faceplate of the camera to correct tilt.  Whats the back focus camera, looks to be less that 17.5mm?

There is no built in option to correct tilt on the latest QHY either, just a built in CAA …. ☹️

Edited December 9, 2021 by Stuart1971

[tooth_dr]

4 minutes ago, Stuart1971 said:

There is no built in option to correct tilt on the latest QHY either, just a built in CAA …. ☹️

What’s a CAA?

[Stuart1971]

1 minute ago, tooth_dr said:

What’s a CAA?

Camera Angle Adjuster, for rotation adjustment….so on my QHY there are three thumb screws your can loosen and rotate the camera…👍🏼

[Stuart1971]

As shown here

 

[tooth_dr]

Just now, Stuart1971 said:

As shown here

 

Ah I see, thanks for that. That’s different from the ZWO version that I have (and also different from the 268 mono version, which has built in tilt plate too!)

[Stuart1971]

Just now, tooth_dr said:

Ah I see, thanks for that. That’s different from the ZWO version that I have (and also different from the 268 mono version, which has built in tilt plate too!)

Yes, it’s a bit misleading as in the advert for the colour version it states it’s a tilt adapter, but it’s not, I think they must have used the same write up on both the colour and the mono…but I did read on a forum that someone posted, it was a CAA and not a tilt adjuster before I purchased so I was not disappointed when it arrived…

[Stuart1971]

I’m not really sure why they thought a tilt adjuster was not as important on the colour version….is it not as important on colour,?  I don’t really know but I thought it would be the same..?? Or as the mono came out later, maybe they just changed the design and will change on newer colour models in the future….who knows.. 👍🏼

edit, I guess by the same logic why no CAA on the mono… 🤔🤔

Edited December 9, 2021 by Stuart1971

[tomato]

On the 268c, as the screws push into an inclined plane you can use it as a crude tilt adjuster, by slackening off two screws and tightening the opposing one, at least that’s what I do on the RASA, as this can all be done in situ on the scope.

[tomato]

1 hour ago, Stuart1971 said:

768 wow that is a large offset…😮

That’s the number straight out of the box, and funnily enough you get the same number on the QHY camera when connected to NINA. Note the subtle difference on the x and y pixel counts. On the subject of numbers, I’m roughly £600 ahead on the Altair version and £8-900 ahead on the premium brands as purchased in the UK, but ask me again after I’ve been imaging with it for 5 years…

[Stuart1971]

1 minute ago, tomato said:

That’s the number straight out of the box, and funnily enough you get the same number on the QHY camera when connected to NINA. Note the subtle difference on the x and y pixel counts. On the subject of numbers, I’m roughly £600 ahead on the Altair version and £8-900 ahead on the premium brands as purchased in the UK, but ask me again after I’ve been imaging with it for 5 years…

My QHY was all set to zero, gain and offset out of the box when connected to NINA, but I don’t use the ASCOM driver I use native…🤔

[Stuart1971]

3 minutes ago, tomato said:

That’s the number straight out of the box, and funnily enough you get the same number on the QHY camera when connected to NINA. Note the subtle difference on the x and y pixel counts. On the subject of numbers, I’m roughly £600 ahead on the Altair version and £8-900 ahead on the premium brands as purchased in the UK, but ask me again after I’ve been imaging with it for 5 years…

Do you use a USB limit of 0 or is that not set yet, also my gain only goes up to 350 and offset 250…strange….

[Stuart1971]

Ah, you are not on the latest NINA I am on version 2 beta 13 so I think there have been some changes….👍🏼

[tomato]

Thanks, had a few issues when I last tried a beta version, and clear sky is so precious around here I don’t want to risk losing any to troubleshooting. I’ll upgrade when the light nights come around.