argonaut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 For a start I would like to thank Ant for this opportunity to have a binocular forum.Where shall we start?What binoculars do you have?How often do you use them?Are there specific targets you observe with the binoculars?Any questions regarding binoculars?I suppose that the questions should get the forum going. I do hope this will turn into a popular forum. It would save me hanging my head in shame for wasting people's time.If there are any new people out there with binoculars and don't post too often,don't be afraid to post here. There is no such thing as a stupid question.Observing reports will be very welcome here. Anything you observe will be interesting.Clear Skies.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgs001 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Glen, I've not the time now, but I'll post some stuff up in here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Thank you John for taking the time. Let us hope the forum proves to be popular.Clear Skies.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgs001 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I use my bins most nights... either the 10x50's or the 15x70's depending on how strong I', feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm a big fan of binoculars, it's how I started in astronomy and if anyone is thinking of venturing into the hobby then it's what I would recommend..Most people have a pair of binoculars lying artound the house which can be used for observing.I use some Lidls 10x50's excellent value for £12.00.. Rebadged as Meade or Bresser..I also have some Celestron 15x70's These are fantastic but the limit to what you can hand hold. I use them in a Tripod or mostly a mono pod..I've spotted several comets with my 15x70's and I believe that the "Proffesional" Comet hunters use binoculars.As for the question about what you can see..It's more about what you can't see.......I'm all for a binocular area.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgs001 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 A couple of posts, Glen, that'll hopefully help to kickstart things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have an old pair of Carl Zeiss Jena Jenoptem 10 x 50 's.They're in great condition though - I use them all the time.Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosanella Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Brilliant! A forum dedicated to observing with binoculars :-)I use a very standard Praktica 12*50 . It's nothing state of the art, but that's the way I've started looking at the skies a couple of years ago. I carry my binos around on many occasions, when it's not pouring down with rain that is , hoping to catch a glimpse of those few patches of clear sky, but I just wish that they had a camera attached.Thank you for this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashenlight Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi all fellow bino users!I use Summit 10x50s. The views I get with them are really good, although this depends on light pollution. My favourite thing about using binos has to be the wide view you get with them, it makes finding my way around the sky fairly pain-free. Talking about pain, I do find I can't hold them up for too long, say 10 minutes at the most, but perhaps I'm just a weakling! Of course, the view through them can be quite jumpy, but I have been able to make out the phases of Venus recently. It takes a lot of patience and a lot of practice at steadying the hand, but I'm pretty convinced I've made the phases out.Amanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm after a pair of binoculars. 10 x 50s, probably. Don't want anything too powerful - just something I can hold relatively still.Anyone used these?http://www.firstlightoptics.com/proddetail.php?prod=outlandlx10x50po&cat=12Look good value.Also had these 10 x 60s recommended - although they're a lot more money.http://www.firstlightoptics.com/proddetail.php?prod=HeliosQuan4&cat=12Extra aperture would be nice, but if any one has experience of these or can recommend a budget pair, I'd be much obliged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acey Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Haven't used either of the above - my bins are 10x50 (Olympus), 9x63 (Meade) and 15x70 (Chinese, can't remember make).In judging binos, two things that are useful is to divide the second number by the first (to get the exit pupil) or else to multiply them together (to get a measure of how much you'll see - there's a name for this but I can't remember it).Exit pupil ought to be less than your own dilated pupil - for young people at a dark site this can typically be 7mm but for people of middle-age or older, and for those at light-polluted sites (or in daylight), it will be less. I'm in my late forties and manage fine with 9x63 at dark sites but haven't tried using them in the daytime.10x50 is the best all-rounder; with 15x70 you've got a heavier instrument to hold, the higher magnification makes shaking more evident - but it gives the most interesting view of deep sky objects. I've used the 15x70s to view a lot of Messiers.Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojolomjl Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I have been looking to buy a pair of binoculars for the last few weeks but cant seem to make up my mind as there are so many to choose from. These have caught my attention as they appear to be http://www.telescopehouse.com/acatalog/Special_Revelation_15x70_Binoculars_and_Tripod_Deal.htmlreasonable quality at a reasonable price. Any comments would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Greg,Nothing wrong with the 10x50's you have. I have had a look through the Meade version,and the CA is well controlled.The Celestron 15x70's are best mounted. You can lose upto a mag with hand shake. The bino's will probably be more like 12x63 due to aperture masks that are used to cut down on aberrations.Thank you for your post.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Barry,Nice pieces of glass you have. You just can't beat quality.Clear Skies for them.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Rosanella Hi,I also carry a pair of binoculars around with me. I carry my 8x42's.Never looked through Praktica bino's. I'll be lazy and ask you for the specs.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Amanda,10x50's seem a popular size these days.I know what you mean with holding them for 10 minutes,it's a bit tough on the neck muscles. You could try a little lightweight monopod and a garden lounger. I suspect there are a few garden loungers on SGL :-)Yes Venus is nicely placed at the moment for binoculars. You can see the phases OK. Just for the fun of it,have a look at Saturn and tell us what you see.Clear Skies.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Jarndyce,If you are worried about holding the binoculars steady,I would consider coming down in size to 8x42. I can use my 8x42's easier than my 10x50's. They are both roof prism so they are quite small and neat for my small hands. The 8x42's are just easier for me.If in doubt,a call to FLO will get you sorted out.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Andrew,You seem to have it covered with your three sets of bino's.Exit pupil is very important.From what I've read, then for people around 30 (WOW! that's along time ago for me) have dilated pupil of around 7mm. By the age of 50(that's still a few years ago) it could be around 5mm. These figures are not set in concrete of course.With my 15x70's I just lay on my back. These dodgy old(ish) muscles won't take it.Thanks for the post.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgs001 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Glen, I normally opt for the same approach, using a camping mat for a bit of comfort. Works a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Mojo,I know a few people with this set up. It would be a good start for you.If these will get you started in binocular astronomy,then go for it.Good luck with your choice.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi John,To be honest I don't use my GO 15x70 SS much now. I have gone for a GT70-90° pair. Much easier on the neck and shoulders,but not the wallet.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega3 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi all,I started with the Bresser 10x50, then got another from Lidl but found the pair from Lidl wasn't as good optically. The Lidl pair has since suffered an accident and no longer functioning. I then got interested in birding and was told that 8x is much easier to hold and image is less jumpy. So I got a pair of 8x43 ED Hawke binoculars with a huge 8.1 degrees FOV, and indeed the view is steadier for astronomy too. I think I am probably seeing more because of the better optics. The view through a 10x50 will improve a great deal once you put it on a tripod. I got the relatively heavy duty Horizon tripod in case I got a bigger binoculars and/or add a parallelogram to make it even easier to point the binoculars.Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonaut Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Yes,Alan,I have to agree with what you have said.Have you tried M81 and M82. They are viewable in my 8x42's.I'm afraid I went over the top with my mounts. Manfrotto 028 and 503HDV. I can now go to binocular telescope ;-)Clear Skies.Glen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omega3 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Hi Glen, no I have not, but will try to look for them the next time I have a chance to go out at night.Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgs001 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I've had a look for M81 and M82 in the 15x70's, but I've had no success to date. Given how hard I found it to fine them in a scope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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