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Hi everyone.

I am soon looking to upgrade my Canon 600D (I will still be using it at times on a widefield rig).

I have decided to go OSC.

I know all the arguments that mono is better and maybe one day, but for now the fact that I wont have to invest in lots of filters and wheels and the rareity of clear skies means I have decided to go for OSC. I have decided that TEC cooled is a sensible thing to include

I have the following options on my list at the moment. My budget is going to be £800-£900

Altair Hypercam 269C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-269c-colour-camera---tec-cooled-1097-p.asp

Altair Hypercam 294C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-294c-pro-tec-cooled-116mp-colour-cmos-camera-52-p.asp

ZWO ASI533MC Pro (£899). https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi-533mc-pro-usb-30-cooled-colour-camera.html

Altair Hypercam 533C (£799). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-533c-colour-camera-9239-p.asp

I understand that the Hypercam 269C and both 533's have no amp glow (and the Hypercam 294c has little amp glow).

Anyone used any of these cameras and have any comment?

Cheers in advance.

Wayne

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If you aren't bothered by the square format and size of the IMX533, it's a very fine sensor.

The IMX294 is a less modern sensor (has some amp glow), and it's  a little larger.

The ideal would be the IMX571, but besides RisingCam (via Aliexpress) the cost is quite high...

N.F.

 

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4 minutes ago, nfotis said:

You may want to check the possibilities with various targets (select "Imagine mode", your scope and the sensors, then check the various targets you have in your mind):

https://astronomy.tools/calculators/field_of_view/

N.F.

 

Hi N.F.

Thanks for your comments/advice.

I have checked the FOV with my gear in stellarium and happy with what all these cameras offer. I don't have an issue with the square sensor on the 533 chip (it offers a novel alternative to the APS-C on my Canon).

The RisingCam looks like an interesting option but not sure I want to deal with Ali Express in case there are any problems and it has to go back. I think I am leaning towards one of the 533's at the moment, I have seen some good things about the ASI533MC Pro, or with the Hypercam version I could put the £100 saved towards an L-eXtreme.

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By the way, as far as I know, the Altair models are exactly the same as the Touptek/RisingCam/Omegon cooled (or not) cameras.

Note that RisingCam offers also a one-stage cooled version of some cameras (not the TEC two-stage cooler, which is substantially cheaper)

N.F.

 

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11 hours ago, nfotis said:

By the way, as far as I know, the Altair models are exactly the same as the Touptek/RisingCam/Omegon cooled (or not) cameras.

Note that RisingCam offers also a one-stage cooled version of some cameras (not the TEC two-stage cooler, which is substantially cheaper)

N.F.

 

Yeah, Altair Astro offer the same. I have decided that it probably makes sense to spend a few 100 quid more and get access to fixed point cooling, I'd probably just want it anyway in a couple of months so would probably end up selling on a fan only cooled camera.

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40 minutes ago, Allinthehead said:

If you can stretch the budget this would be a great purchase. 

Open to offers too.

I saw that in the classifieds.

Bit steep for me at the moment, if I was going to spend that I would probably find a mono option and get filters and a wheel.

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12 hours ago, nfotis said:

By the way, as far as I know, the Altair models are exactly the same as the Touptek/RisingCam/Omegon cooled (or not) cameras.

Note that RisingCam offers also a one-stage cooled version of some cameras (not the TEC two-stage cooler, which is substantially cheaper)

N.F.

 

Anyone got any experience with the Toupek/RisingCam/Omegon camaras?

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At least in CN there are users of their IMX571 camera:

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/739387-risingcam-imx571-camera/

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/747251-risingcam-touptekaltair-imx571-sharpcap-sensor-analysis/

I am tempted by this, because the price difference with the ZWO/QHY offerings is quite large. Maybe during the Chinese Black Friday...

 

N.F.

 

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On 05/06/2021 at 17:31, wsteel33 said:

Hi everyone.

I am soon looking to upgrade my Canon 600D (I will still be using it at times on a widefield rig).

I have decided to go OSC.

I know all the arguments that mono is better and maybe one day, but for now the fact that I wont have to invest in lots of filters and wheels and the rareity of clear skies means I have decided to go for OSC. I have decided that TEC cooled is a sensible thing to include

I have the following options on my list at the moment. My budget is going to be £800-£900

Altair Hypercam 269C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-269c-colour-camera---tec-cooled-1097-p.asp

Altair Hypercam 294C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-294c-pro-tec-cooled-116mp-colour-cmos-camera-52-p.asp

ZWO ASI533MC Pro (£899). https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi-533mc-pro-usb-30-cooled-colour-camera.html

Altair Hypercam 533C (£799). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-533c-colour-camera-9239-p.asp

I understand that the Hypercam 269C and both 533's have no amp glow (and the Hypercam 294c has little amp glow).

Anyone used any of these cameras and have any comment?

Cheers in advance.

Wayne

ASI183 or 294 MC Pros?

Not amp glow free, but a set of darks should compensate for that.

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On 05/06/2021 at 17:31, wsteel33 said:

Hi everyone.

I am soon looking to upgrade my Canon 600D (I will still be using it at times on a widefield rig).

I have decided to go OSC.

I know all the arguments that mono is better and maybe one day, but for now the fact that I wont have to invest in lots of filters and wheels and the rareity of clear skies means I have decided to go for OSC. I have decided that TEC cooled is a sensible thing to include

I have the following options on my list at the moment. My budget is going to be £800-£900

Altair Hypercam 269C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-269c-colour-camera---tec-cooled-1097-p.asp

Altair Hypercam 294C (£899). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-294c-pro-tec-cooled-116mp-colour-cmos-camera-52-p.asp

ZWO ASI533MC Pro (£899). https://www.firstlightoptics.com/zwo-cameras/zwo-asi-533mc-pro-usb-30-cooled-colour-camera.html

Altair Hypercam 533C (£799). https://www.altairastro.com/altair-hypercam-533c-colour-camera-9239-p.asp

I understand that the Hypercam 269C and both 533's have no amp glow (and the Hypercam 294c has little amp glow).

Anyone used any of these cameras and have any comment?

Cheers in advance.

Wayne

A thought.

How many images has the 600D taken?

Consider that count vs resale value of it

Any dedicated imaging camera will take thousands of images with minimal resale deprecation. There is mechanical wear on the DSLR limiting its lifetime. 

I’d consider your budget to be around cost of replacing the 600D at new cost and start with that.

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