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Hello all,

Sharing with you my quickie exposure... The Trifid nebula, aka M20 or NGC 6514, a popular and bright nebula about 4300 light years away in the constellation Sagittarius.

I had no plans for another object after imaging the "War and Peace" nebula and I didn't want to waste a clear night, so I pointed the scope at M20 and started exposing.

This image was taken through my Celestron 8" SCT on the CGEM at f6.3 using a cooled and astro-modded DSLR.



RGB subs: 6x60s, 5x120s, 5x180s, 5x240s, 4x300s

HII subs: 10x600s

OIII subs: 9x600s

Total Time: 04hr 21min.


Most of this image is natural color because I only used 10% of the HII and OIII stack to emphesize the detail in the red and blue hues.


Clear Skies,




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      The Trifid nebula, aka M20 or NGC 6514, a popular and bright nebula about 4300 light years away in the constellation Sagittarius.
      This image was taken through my Celestron 8" SCT on the CGEM at f6.3 using a cooled and astro-modded DSLR.
      RGB subs: 6x60s, 5x120s, 5x180s, 5x240s, 4x300s
      HII subs: 10x600s
      OIII subs: 9x600s
      Total Time: 04hr 21min.
      Most of this image is natural color because I only used 10% of the HII and OIII stack to emphesize the detail in the red and blue hues.
    • By wxsatuser
      Impossible to get this from home so resorted to some DSW data taken recently.
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    • By DavidR100
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      If you read this novel of ramblings of a astro-nut to the end, thank you and congratulations.
      Clear skies.

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