Canon 4000d over 550d or 600d

[R26 oldtimer]

As I am on the lookout for a used canon 550d or 600d, I stumbled upon an ad for a new 4000d. It appears to have the same 18Mp sensor and digic4 processor. Plus it's brand new, plus it has wifi. I can get it for the same price of a used 600d.

So, is anyone using the 4000d for astrophoto?

[Prador]

They are very similar in spec. The 4000d has an improved DIGIC 4+ image processor but the 600d has a much better articulating touchscreen. Very useful when trying to frame and focus on the subject.

[TheMan]

I know that there are a fair amount of tutorials on how mod the 600d for astrophotography if you wish to astromod.

[Dr_Ju_ju]

Work on the basis, that with Canon cameras, the less zero's in the camera type, the better the camera....

[Peter Drew]

If it's the same as my 400D then it won't have "liveview", a big disadvantage for AP.     ?

[Peter Drew]

Ooops! just noticed the post referred to a 4000D, didn't know there was one until now.    ?

[R26 oldtimer]

Would the wifi be of any use in astrophoto? Can I see the liveview from a smartphone thus not needing the articulated screen?

[R26 oldtimer]

They retail here for £200 for body or £225 with the kit lens

[Prador]

Despite the seven year gap in release dates, internally they're largely the same camera. If you have no use for the articulated screen then a brand new camera may be the better option. At least it will have a guarantee, you will know its not been kicked around and the shutter count will be zero.

In defence of the 600d its a well regarded astro camera and WiFi could be added with a WIFi enabled SD card. On balance though the newer model may be the better choice if prices are similar.

If you can get the one with a kit lens as it gives you more imaging options without a telescope.

[Seanelly]

On 10/01/2019 at 17:54, R26 oldtimer said:

As I am on the lookout for a used canon 550d or 600d, I stumbled upon an ad for a new 4000d. It appears to have the same 18Mp sensor and digic4 processor. Plus it's brand new, plus it has wifi. I can get it for the same price of a used 600d.

So, is anyone using the 4000d for astrophoto?

Two reasons I upgraded from my 550D to a 750D when I recently got into astrophotography: articulated screen and digic 6 processor. Having only used the 750D for astrophotos, I can't compare the two processors, but the articulated screen is extremely useful.

[happy-kat]

I can see a newer digic logic being good for every day photo taking but can't see an obvious advantage for astro use.

I don't have an articulated screen but as I connect to a tablet or phone screen to focus at night I don't miss it.

[R26 oldtimer]

A couple of hours ago, I went to a store that had a second hand 600d, with 5000 clicks for 200€. I asked to compare it side by side with the 4000d.

The 4000d with its plastic lens mount and mediocre overall build looked very "cheap" compared with the 600d.

Can you guess which one came home with me?

[pete_l]

14 minutes ago, R26 oldtimer said:

The 4000d with its plastic lens mount and mediocre overall build looked very "cheap" compared with the 600d.

Can you guess which one came home with me?

The one that produced the best photos?

[R26 oldtimer]

The one that comes home with you always produces the best photos...?... regardless of specs!?

[RichM63]

Congratulations.

I once had a new camera, sold it to help finance a higher spec second hand model.

[Alien 13]

Good choice, the other advantage of the Canon 600D and all XXXD models upwards is a proper mirror lock-up function which is very useful doing short exposures on the Moon etc.

Alan

[Dr_Ju_ju]

Great choice, as well as a modded 1100D, I have 2 600D's one modded the other not... The latter never far from my hands....  

Oh by the way, download & expand\install to the SD card, a copy of Magic Lantern (https://magiclantern.fm/), it opens another level of control of the camera, that you never knew existed....  & if you don't like it, you can just wipe the SD card & be back to normal.

[R26 oldtimer]

I was thinking about ml, but wasn't very sure it's stable.... Is it working ok with your 600d?

 ....But the lack of ml for the digic 4+ processor (at least for the time being), was another reason for me not to go with the 4000d

[Dr_Ju_ju]

It works well on all my cameras, I wouldn't be without it...