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Kezzba's Hypothesis=Planet 9 a black hole.


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Hi, im Kez and have heaps of questions about a hypothesis I came up with hopeing some one will help with some of these and educate me a lot.

What math would I nerd to learn to try to calculate the size of a black hole with a mass several times that of earth? 

If a small black hole were stationary relative to the sun close to our solar system would the orbit of earth be likely to create an eclipse with a distant star and if so at what frequency and would current technology be able to conclusively measure an observation? Also what math do I need to figure this out? 

Anyone know anyone doing work on this or if it was previously hypothesised? Disproved? 

Anyone with anything that may educate me on this topic would be awesome and even general comments, thoughts, I'm a real noob but genuine interest in astrophysics, quantum physics heaps of stuff. Any knowledgeable contacts for discussion. Cheers!!!! 

 

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Black holes cannot have a mass so small, the definition of a black hole is that it is a collapsed massive star... and as I'm sure you are aware - that is much, much heavier and denser than something that is merely a few times the earth's mass. No maths required really!

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On 20/10/2017 at 22:08, John said:

Hello and welcome to the forum.

I can't help you on these issues but I've found a website which might be worth reading. It includes some of the maths involved in black holes:

http://physicsforidiots.com/space/black-holes/

Awesome thankyou, appreciated. 

 

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On 20/10/2017 at 22:52, Uranium235 said:

Black holes cannot have a mass so small, the definition of a black hole is that it is a collapsed massive star... and as I'm sure you are aware - that is much, much heavier and denser than something that is merely a few times the earth's mass. No maths required really!

Correct me if I'm wrong)(highly likely) Pretty sure I've read or seen on a doco that black holes can be quite small eg an apple, not sure how they get that small possibly through loss of mass from hawking radiation which may be unlikely given our galaxy is relatively young, this still may be possible if it was ejected /orphaned from an older galaxy and captured by ours? 

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On 10/20/2017 at 10:52, Kezzba said:

Hi, im Kez 

If a small black hole were stationary relative to the sun close to our solar system 

Hi Kez,

Lets not get into the size of black holes yet, it is not necessary to your hypothesis ! Any object, regardless of its size, density and/or mass  cannot be stationary relative to the sun. They will orbit each other* round a (common) barycenter. Leaving aside the no small matter of how you define your reference point for all other objects to be measured as being stationary from.

[*except in the special case of when they start out at infinite separation from each other with no impulse (aka deltaV) at either, in this case they will, in due course, collide   ]

Kepler, Newton and latterly Minkowski and Einstein had a lot to say about this !

Introduce a third body, such as your Earth, and all hell breaks with the Maths.

 

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On 23/10/2017 at 14:03, SilverAstro said:

Hi Kez,

Lets not get into the size of black holes yet, it is not necessary to your hypothesis ! Any object, regardless of its size, density and/or mass  cannot be stationary relative to the sun. They will orbit each other* round a (common) barycenter. Leaving aside the no small matter of how you define your reference point for all other objects to be measured as being stationary from.

[*except in the special case of when they start out at infinite separation from each other with no impulse (aka deltaV) at either, in this case they will, in due course, collide   ]

Kepler, Newton and latterly Minkowski and Einstein had a lot to say about this !

Introduce a third body, such as your Earth, and all hell breaks with the Maths.

 

Hey man, this was probably the most constructive useful comment, on this thread even though i had no idea what u were talkin bout (or i for that matter :0 I mean with the IR Bridge being stationry relative to earth and all LMFAO think i was drunk) I was still inspired and knew u Knew ur [removed word] with mention of Newton  and Einstein, my faverite 2 bros man Im defo gunna U tube Minkowski....I really hope U read this coz ima tell ya sumthing awesome and youll remember...In regards to unifying  Quantum phisics with general relatativeity....Neil Turoc is on the Ball he hasnt quiet got it but his damn close!!, seen a world science festival youtube panel last night...neil turok some asian dude and 2 chicks talking to matter antimatter electrons positrons etc...long story short the highlight for me was when tyhey all laughed out loud when someone suggested the possibility of finding Matter and anti matter act exactly the same. ie no difference in the way they interact with gravity for example a positron shot like an electron behave exactly like an electron (except for annhilation uponcontact with matter...contactact with antimatter exactly as matter vs matter yada yada... anyways this is exactly what happens i suspect well im no genus but if im correct those laughs will turn to horror and disbeleif when they see it for them selves..............if this Occues I hope they call it Kezzba Clunies-Ross Shoulda learned Math hahah! neh sumthin more catchy ay  Kezzba Cant write papers theorim hahah nuff with the joks.....Clunies-Ross unification...It is not a theory its proven love to show it some day but dont got jedi like math skill... Dunno anyone who could lend me some by chance?  ...

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