Jump to content

Stargazers Lounge Uses Cookies

Like most websites, SGL uses cookies in order to deliver a secure, personalised service, to provide social media functions and to analyse our traffic. Continued use of SGL indicates your acceptance of our cookie policy.

Sign in to follow this  
GTom

Canon 6D or nikon d600/610?

Recommended Posts

After reading the Sony star eater story I abandoned the brand and looking elsewhere. I used to be a nikonian/touched canon bodies only a handful of times but that should not bias my decision for the future.

Any arguments for choosing one or the other? In this quick review they came up more or less even. I would like to monochrome-mod the camera and add a cold-finger-type cooling as well. And I know, there are cheaper mono  astrocameras, like the asi1600mm-c arund, but that tiny creature covers only 1/4 of the frame of the 6D/D610. Full Frame CCD's are way too expensive for my budget except a few KAI-11002 based 2nd hand unit, but that piece of hardware has so low QE (H-a: 30%) and so high noise, that a microlens-stripped DSLR might fare better... (and still significantly cheaper)

From my side:

For canon:

- I have a sigma ART 1.4/20 for EOS lens, currently used for videography but could make a great timelapser.
- Canon has a somewhat shorter flange distance - in case I have space issues, abovementioned review quotes vignetting, due to the smaller throat diameter (nikon: 44, canon 54mm) - this is a topic in my case, I plan to use a Riccardi reducer on my apo scope.
-Canon is broadly supported by the astrophoto community, has magic lantern firmware mods (whatever that means for astro...), etc.

For nikon:

-I do have and will keep my astro-modded D5100 for the time being. This means two sets of adapters.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Canon over Nikon every time, better AP support, compatibility with older M42 lenses and just better... runs for cover :happy7:

Alan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks Alan, I am leaning towards the canon too. Many "astro converters" haven't even heard about nikon :D (key project for me would be the monochrome modding, I've heard that canon's give up their Bayers a lot easier than nikons).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am a Canon man, mainly because that is what I shoot during the day and I have all the bits and bobs for the system.

I do like the ISOlessness (made up word) of the more recent Nikons. But overall I believe that it is 80% effort and 20% kit....

Buying something like PixInsight and learning to process images better is a much cheaper investment than any kit...of course if you are excellent at processing then getting better kit is the only way at improving other than going to darker sites or exposing for much longer.

I wouldn't fancy mono modifying a Canon 6D...replacing the filter with a Baader one was bad enough...scraping the Bayer layer off just doesn't appeal to me on a (circa) £800 camera. Perhaps in 5 years time when I have got some use out of it...if it is worth it by then as there will no doubt be better options available by then.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Actually I don't know if the iso invariance bears any meaning for astrophotography. Of course one could push the subs, but taking the shots is not a race that someone would forget to set iso1600 or whatever the sweet spot is :D.

The IR blocking filter will go on the first day when I receive the camera, but I am seriously interested in the mono conversion. Apparently both H-a and O-III sensitivity can be doubled, which is a great thing (one has to compare 2:2 binned mono vs Bayered RGB results). I know, it's a steep learning curve, but I am ready to learn the mod, of course not by destroying tens of 6D's but hopefully <10 el-cheapo sensors from fleabay.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Ken Mitchell
      Hi all,
      For a long time I wanted to shoot this frame, probably from the early days of my astrophotography adventure.
      Finally after all these years I managed to get a decent result of the 'stuff' between these two beautiful nebulae. Fairly happy with the image but always looking for improvement.
      I hope one day to redo this all with a mono camera and filters. 
      Apart from NGC1499 , M45 and the Baby Eagle Nebula no idea what else is in the picture. If you happen to have an idea feel free to educate me.
       
      Some info on image and capturing:
      Widefield Pleiades to California.
      Taken over 2 nights with a total of 11hrs 25min integration.  
      With a stock Nikon d610 and Nikkor 85mm 1.8 objective.
      Tracking was done with the Skywatcher Star Adventurer.
      Lights and all calibrations frames were stacked in DSS.
      Processing was done in Adobe Photoshop CC using Adobe Raw, GradientXterminator plugin, HLVG plugin, Nik software plugins and Photokemi action set.
       
      Ken

       
    • By astrosathya
      Just thought i'll bring this up as a point of discussion. Today, cooled CMOS Astro Cameras are available in plenty. QHY, ZWO and other variants of the same camera are selling for very reasonable prices. However, there was a point of time when astrophotographers used to cool down their DSLR's as a cheap OSC alternative to CCD cameras. Give a choice, I would've purchased a dedicated CMOS OSC which can cool to 40 C below ambient, but since I had a Canon 500D which I had self modded, I requested a friend Kaustav Chatterjee (an avid model railroader) to cold mod my 500D (he had cold modded his 1000D long back). This newly modded camera has a TEC12703 single peltier and cools to approximately 20 below ambient.What do you guys think?




    • By paulobao
      Hello everyone,
       
      QHY5-II (MONO) - as new with original box and acessories.
      Great guiding camera!
      Check some photos at Astrobin or Stargazers Lounge under "paulobao".
       
      I just quit the hobby and sold all my gear (FS102, G11, QSI532, etc...).
       
      Price 70 GBP shipping included.
       
    • By LR Watanabe
      Is the Nikon Nikkor 55-200mm f/3.5-5.6 II a good lens for astrophotography? I plan on using the Nikon D5300 with it and I wanted to know if the 55-200 would be a good lens for photographing DSOs. Does anyone use this lens and if so, may I see some images taken with it? I can't seem to find images on Astrobin. Also, is it possible to photograph DSOs (M42, Rosette, Flaming star, M45 etc.) from a bortle 7 sky with the 55-200mm?
      Clear skies,
      LR
    • By Nikolas74
      Recently i bought this brand new camera from David Hardie when he was doing a big sell out of some really nice items in excellent offers !!!
      Unfortunately the camera although brand new doesn't serve my purposes so I decided to sell it at exactly the same price which I bought it from David , it was a really special offer 🤪
      The camera new costs £1685 and I will sell it for £750 to be fair....🤪🤪🤪🤪
      Camera comes with all its extras and case in absolutely brand new condition....!!!!
      Info from FLO site :
      https://www.firstlightoptics.com/starlight-xpress-cameras/starlight-xpress-trius-pro-674c-colour-ccd-camera.html
      Postage expenses are on me, secured package.
      Paypal accepted ,just buyer pays the fees.
      If payment is in EURO we will just calculate the daily exchange rate at Xe.com.
      Many thanks !
      Nikolas.
       
       



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.