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MarsG76

14" Skywatcher First Light

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Hi All,

Finally my new toy has arrived, namely the 14" GOTO Skywatcher Dob. It's a massive unit.

Before taking it to a dark site I though I'd spend a bit of time getting to know it in the backyard and compare the views in it to the 8" SCT.

I tried to get my eye night adapted.. yes EYE singular, since I do have 3 street lights around my back yard shining in, I used a patch to keep my observing eye covered at all times when not at the eye piece. 

Initially I was disappointed, I positioned both of the scopes on to the 47Tuc globular. Looking first into the 8" SCT I saw what was expected, the cluster of stars with stars sprinkling outward and granulation visible all the way to the core, and I was expecting that when looking into the 14" dob, the cluster will be bright and amazing, BUT no, not much better than the 8", actually the blackness of space was milky and the view was disappointingly worse than the 8"!!! How can that be? I put it down to the 14" mirror brightening up the skyglow more and this unit is best used at a dark site.

The next view I targeted was the Orion Nebula, again the 8" showed the fishes mouth and the moustachy curves witch slight haze above it, along with a slight view of M43, the trapezium, exactly what I was expecting from my backyard, here I'll point out that when I had my 8" at a dark site, there were much more detail visible than in the back yard, namely the shape of the nebula was distinct with mottling within it, M43 was a clear "comma" shape with detail with in it and the trapezium was sharp steady pinpoints of light.

When I moved to the 14" SW I was expecting a similar outcome, BUT I was wrong, the nebula was big and a lot brighter then in the 8" with a lot darker blackness with much higher contrast, there was detail with in the nebula, M43 etc, through the UHC filter again the view was a fair bit brighter and more detailed then in the 8" SCT. The view from my yard was better then at a dark site through the 8" as I remember.

The whole Pleiades was visible in the FOV through the 31mm TV T5 Terminagler in the DOB where as only the main part was visible in the SCT due to the higher magnification, but not that much difference, still the the view was close enough to compare. The 14" showed a lot more stars than the 8" but not more than the 8" showed at a dark site.

Now the sky was not as milky as before, it was quite dark and, to cut a story short, it was just a street light that was flooding the secondary mirror completely destroying the contrast.

Once I realized that this was happening I made sure that there was no light hitting the secondary and had another look at 47Tuc and this time it was brighter and more stars were visible than before and than the 8". The Tarantula Nebula actually had thin details visible within the brighter and fainter loops and structure. 

When the Carina nebula rose high enough for a good viewing, again what I saw in the eyepiece using the UHC filter was awesome, lots of nebulosity and detail within. The 31mm Nagler showed almost the whole nebula within the FOV which was full of nebulosity, cloudyness detail and stars.

 

Setup and star alignment was easy to get my head around, but it is very similar to the CGEM hand controller so it wasn't a big step from one to the other. GOTO pointing accuracy was very good, found every object that the scope was slewing to, and stopped with the objects near the center in the eyepiece everytime, tracking was very good also, I left the 47Tuc Globular using the 17mm Ethos and a 2X Power mate for over 15 minutes and when coming back to the eyepiece it was still in the FOV, slightly off center, but still there.

Reading some reviews where some users had problems with tracking and GOTO accuracy or with focusing using a 2" eyepiece, I think their problems were due to one or a combination of wrong time entered, wrong time zone or wrong location coordinates entered and focuser travel not coming out enough due to not using the 2" extension tube supplied in the kit. In my opinion technically the unit works very well.

 

In conclusion the views were visibly brighter on all objects, Galaxies like Sculptor and NGC55 were much easier to see, and I saw no difference in brightness in the objects when going from the 31mm Nagler to a 17mm with a 2X PM, higher magnifications did reveal more details on the brighter objects like 47Tuc, M42, Tarantula or Carina Nabula.

I can't wait to have the unit at a dark site, I think I'll have some awesome views.

Thanks for reading, clear skies.

Mariusz

 

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Nice review!

Are you using a light shroud? Also, a dew/light shield (full one) can be easily made to fit on the front to help against nearby light sources.

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Thanks for the nice write up, I've been toying with the idea of getting one of these so most helpful :)

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26 minutes ago, Davesellars said:

Nice review!

Are you using a light shroud? Also, a dew/light shield (full one) can be easily made to fit on the front to help against nearby light sources.

Yeah, a light shroud is the next thing I'll be putting on it.

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11 minutes ago, D4N said:

Thanks for the nice write up, I've been toying with the idea of getting one of these so most helpful :)

You won't regret it, just be aware that the 14" is a big beast... I was going to go for the 16" but it wouldn't fit in my car, the 14" just barely fits in when pulled apart into 3 parts. 

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Yeh weight is my main concern, I was thinking to keep it in my shed and move it out for observing.  I figure I would separate just the OTA and base for this purpose to make it more manageable.  Is it pretty easy to do that?

My garden is pretty dark so I don't tend to find it worth the effort to go somewhere darker.

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51 minutes ago, D4N said:

Yeh weight is my main concern, I was thinking to keep it in my shed and move it out for observing.  I figure I would separate just the OTA and base for this purpose to make it more manageable.  Is it pretty easy to do that?

My garden is pretty dark so I don't tend to find it worth the effort to go somewhere darker.

I separate the OTA from the base to carry it out to the backyard one part at a time. Whether its easy for you depends on your physical strength, when not observing or working I live in the gym so I manage to carry out the base quite easily, the only reasons why separate the two to take it to the back yard is one, accidents happen so I'd rather no risk carrying out the whole 80 odd kilos and I'm not sure how strong the handles are on he base.

You could attach some wheels with brakes to the base, easy wheel out all in one hit. 

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Well I can certainly lift the ~50 kg base if not easily at least that bit is less likely to break into tiny pieces if dropped.  The OTA should be easy by comparison.

My main concern would be slipping on ice whilst carrying it.

The weather where I live negates wheels for much of the year but a sledge could work.

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40 minutes ago, D4N said:

Well I can certainly lift the ~50 kg base if not easily at least that bit is less likely to break into tiny pieces if dropped.  The OTA should be easy by comparison.

My main concern would be slipping on ice whilst carrying it.

The weather where I live negates wheels for much of the year but a sledge could work.

OTA is quite light and comfortable to carry.. on dry non icey ground....

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      Coat Hanger Cluster, Al Sufi's Cluster or Brocchi's Cluster.    Vulpecula    Cr 399        10/06/2017    22:47    I see a coat hanger!    
      Andromeda Galaxy    Andromeda    NGC 224    M31    10/06/2017    23:11        
      Hyades    Taurus    Caldwell 41        10/06/2017    23:23        
                                  
      Andromeda Galaxy    And    NGC 224    M31    10/07/2017    20:30        
      Saturn                10/07/2017            
      Uranus                10/07/2017            
      carbon star SAO 012874    Cam    SAO 012874        10/07/2017            
      Kembles Cascade    Cam            10/07/2017            failed to spot this with binos
      Owl Cluster, ET Cluster    Cas    NGC 457        10/07/2017            
      Pacman Nebula    Cas    NGC 281        10/07/2017            failed to spot this with binos
      Pacman Cluster    Cas    IC 1590        10/07/2017            
                                  
      Andromeda Galaxy    And    NGC 224    M31    10/09/2017            
      M7, Ptolemy Cluster    Scorpius    NGC 6475    M7    10/09/2017            
      M25, Open Cluster    Sagittarius    IC 4725    M25    10/09/2017            
      M11, Wild Duck Cluster    Scutum    NGC 6705    M11    10/09/2017            
      NGC 281, Pacman nebula    Cas    NGC 281        10/09/2017            
      NGC 457, open Cluster    Cas    NGC 457        10/09/2017            
      M103, open Cluster    Cas    NGC 581    M103    10/09/2017            
      NGC 884, Double Cluster    Perseus            10/09/2017            
      M76, little Dumbbell Nebula    Perseus    NGC 650/651    M76    10/09/2017            
      M33, Triangulum Galaxy    Tri    NGC 598        10/09/2017            
      M52, Open Cluster    Cas    NGC 7654    M52    10/09/2017    21:55    a good collection of mostly blue stars    
      Open Cluster    Cas    NGC 663        10/09/2017    22:11    A dense collection of young blue stars    
      NGC 185, galaxy    And    NGC 185        10/09/2017            
      NGC 7789, Open cluster    Cas    NGC 7789        10/09/2017    21:53    A concentration of many stars, most very blue    
      M27, Dumbbell Nebula    Vulpecula    NGC 6853        10/09/2017    22:04        
      M57, Ring Nebula    Lyra    NGC 6720    M57    10/09/2017            
      M13, Hercules Cluster    Hercules    NGC 6205    M13    10/09/2017            
      Pleiades    Taurus            10/09/2017            
      Cat's Eye Nebula        NGC 6543        10/09/2017            
                                  
      M8, Lagoon Nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6523    M8    10/10/2017    20:43    Very clear nebulosity!    Cannot see this at all with my unpatched eye. Favorite eyepiece 17mm
      M10, globular cluster    Ophiuchus    NGC 6254    M10    10/10/2017    21:29    Faint smudge of greyish white.    can see individual stars with averted vision
      Andromeda Galaxy    And    NGC 224    M31    10/10/2017    21:45    Very clear and bright tonight    
      M16, Eagle Nebula    Serpens    NGC 6611    M16    10/10/2017    21:51    Nebulosity faint but visible    Needed averted vision to see it.
      The Omega Nebula, Checkmark nebula    Sagittarius    Sharpless 45    M17    10/10/2017    21:55    Very clear nebulosity here    I noticed I thought this was an open cluster last time I looked when the moon was high. I wasn't taking it seriously so I didn't wear my eyepatch either.
                                  
      M24, Small Sagittarius Star Cloud    Sagittarius    IC 4715    M24    10/11/2017    20:12    Very dense star field    Somewhat washed out due to Bortle 6 to 7 skies
      M8, Lagoon Nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6523    M8    10/11/2017    20:24    Very clear nebulosity    
      M20, The Trifid Nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6514    M20    10/11/2017    20:33    Faint but visible. Can see edges of cloud forms with AV    
      M17, The Omega Nebula, Checkmark nebula    Sagittarius    Sharpless 45    M17    10/11/2017    21:09    Very clear checkmark    
      Blinking Planetary    Cygnus    NGC 6826        10/11/2017    21:26    small dense white cloud    
      M27, Dumbbell Nebula    Vulpecula    NGC 6853    M27    10/11/2017    21:38    Bright and clearly defined edges without AV    This is the brightest nebula in the sky above Fort Collins
      M57, Ring nebula    Lyra    NGC 6720    M57    10/11/2017    21:56    Smoke ring in the sky    clear, and dark bluish grey
      M11, Wild Duck cluster    Scutum    NGC 6705    M11    10/11/2017    22:09    A very nice density of stars    
                                  
      Saturn nebula    Aquarius    NGC 7009        10/12/2017    20:16    Very small, white oval of nebula    17mm and 13mm gave the best views
      Pacman Nebula    Cas    NGC 281        10/12/2017    20:50    only see the stars    
      Barnard's Galaxy    Sagittarius    NGC 6822        10/12/2017    21:12    Another oval smudge    used LP filter
      Planetary Nebula    Aquila    NGC 6852        10/12/2017    21:19    tiny white nebula    17mm is best here I think
      M17, Checkmark Nebula    Sagittarius    Sharpless 45    M17    10/12/2017    21:32    amazing nebulosity here    
      M27, Dumbbell nebula    Vulpecula    NGC 6853    M27    10/12/2017    21:50    not quite as defined this evening.    
      NGC 6572                10/12/2017    22:26    10mm eyepiece reveals this is not a star but a very bright planetary nebula    
      NGC 6210                10/12/2017    22:56    I see three things.    
      M27, Dumbbell nebula    Vulpecula    NGC 6853    M27    10/12/2017    23:17    Bright as usual    
      M57    Lyra    NGC 6270    M57    10/12/2017    23:28    smoky ring in the sky is blueish    
      SAO 012870    Cam            10/12/2017    23:37    red star. I slew to Kembles cascade from here  
      M76, Little Dumbbell Nebula    Perseus    NGC 650/651    M76    10/12/2017    23:55    Faint but does not require AV    
      M39, open Cluster    Cygnus    NGC 7092    M39    10/13/2017    1:03    a small handful of stars    
      M42    Orion    NGC 1976    M42    10/12/2017    1:17    amazing nebulosity    Without the LP filter I could see the four trapezium stars without AV
                                  
      M31    Andromeda    NGC 224    M31    10/15/2017    21:27    Very bright this evening, can see some detail in the outer disk more easily than on other evenings    
      M92    Hercules    NGC 6341    M92    10/15/2017    22:39    A very tight ball of white fog.    AV reveals some individual stars at higher magnifications
      M13    Hercules    NGC 6205    M13    10/15/2017    22:30    Fabulously clear tonight.    I can see individual stars with less magnification than usual. 17mm reveals granularity and individual stars where 13mm is usually required.
      M56    Lyra    NGC 6779    M56    10/15/2017    23:12    a fuzzy white patch of fog    
      M42    Orion    NGC 1976    M42    10/15/2017    0:22    Clear and bright nebulosity    
                                  
      M8, Lagoon nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6523    M8    10/17/2017    20:09    Still an amazing sight    
      M17, Omega, Checkmark Nebula    Sagittarius    Sharpless 45    M17    10/17/2017    20:17    Just see the check mark    
      M20. Triffid nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6514    M20    10/17/2017    20:23    Faint but visible nebulosity. AV reveals details.    
      M110, Galaxy    And    NGC 205    M110    10/17/2017    20:21    A faint but detectable fogginess.    I needed to slew the telescope to see this
      M31, Andromeda Galaxy    And    NGC 224    M31    10/17/2017    20:25    Quite brright this evening.     i can see some detail in the outer disk without AV
      M32 Dwarf Eliptical Galaxy    And    NGC 221    M32    10/17/2017    20:27    Bright and clear    can see both M31 and M32 together while M110 is quite a ways off.
      M110, Galaxy    And    NGC 205    M110    10/17/2017    20:31    I found it this time without goto.    
      M13, Hercules Cluster    Hercules    NGC 6205    M13    10/17/2017    20:36    A nice glob tonight. Very clear.    Lower magnifications reveal individual stars in this glob tonight. 17mm, and the 13, and 10mm are awesome. I like the Svbony 10mm aspheric on these globs, it shows good detail, while retaining good contrast.
      M92, Globular Cluster    Hercules    NGC 6341    M92    10/17/2017    20:50    Tight and white    takes real mag to bring out individual stars
      M34, Open Cluster    Perseus    NGC 1039    M34    10/17/2017    21:33    A sparse collection of stars    
      M15, Globular Cluster    Perseus    NGC 7078    M15    10/17/2017    21:45    Faint fuzzy ball of light    averted vision using the 13mm revealed individual stars and granularity
      M27, Dumbbell Nebula    Vulpecula    NGC 6853    M27    10/17/2017    21:58    A nebula brightly lit from inside by a white dwarf star    
      M57, Ring Nebula    Lyra    NGC 6720    M57    10/17/2017    22:08    smoly ring    
      M2, Globular Cluster    Aquarius    NGC 7089    M2    10/17/2017    22:15    Very tight globular cluster.    Take significant magnification (10mm, 8mm, 6mm) to reveal individual stars using AV
                                  
      Butterfly Cluster    Scorpius    NGC 6405    M6    10/18/2017            
      Ptolemy Cluster    Scorpius    NGC 6475    M7    10/18/2017            
      Lagoon nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6523    M8    10/18/2017            
      Delle Caustiche, Sagittarius Star Cloud    Sagittarius    IC 4715    M24    10/18/2017            
      Triffid Nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6514    M20    10/18/2017        More visible than the usual fogginess, just a hint of structure    
      Eagle Nebula    Sagittarius    NGC 6611    M16    10/18/2017            
      Omega, or Checkmark Nebula    Sagittarius    Sharpless 45    M17    10/18/2017            
      M30, Globular Cluster    Capricornus    NGC 7099    M30    10/18/2017    22:39    A tight white globular, not quite circular    
      M72    Aquarius    NGC 6981    M72    10/18/2017    22:53    Very Faint Foggy Patch    
      Saturn nebula    Aquarius    NGC 7009        10/18/2017            
      Blinking Planetary    Cygnus    NGC 6826        10/18/2017        Small white planetary nebula    
      Double Cluster    Perseus    NGC 884        10/18/2017        A bright and generous scattering of stars    
      M34, Open Cluster    Perseus    NGC 1039    M34    10/18/2017        A sparse collection of stars    
      NGC 1514    Taurus    NGC 1514        10/18/2017            
      M73    Aquarius    NGC 6994    M73    10/18/2017        Four stars    
      NGC 6543    Draco    NGC 6543        10/18/2017            
      M27    Vulpecula    NGC 6853    M27    10/18/2017            
      M57    Lyra    NGC 6270    M57    10/18/2017            
      Aldebaran    Taurus            10/18/2017        A redish star    
      Hyades    Taurus            10/18/2017        A very interesting group of stars   
    • By Richard Hather
      Finally I got my hands on one of these eypieces pretty much by accident but a happy one ?
      Build Quality
      The quality of the eyepiece is top draw as I'm sure you would expect it's very solid and doesn't feel like you would drop it because of the grip round the middle.
      The lense is huge which you would expect because of the FOV this eyepiece provides.
      The bottom of the EP has both fitting for 1.25 and 2 diagonal sizes if needed.
      Session
      So the session began for me as it always does I setup my Celestron Nexstar 6se then align the scope using my ES 68.
      My first target had to be the moon I excitedly put the EP in the diagonal and peered through... I could say peered but that wouldn't be right I literally fell into the EP my feet left the ground and I was gliding above the moon.
      It was simply jaw dropping for me how detailed the moon looked I've never seen such colours and shadows on the terminator the detail of the mountains and craters far exceeded my very high expectations.
      The ethos gives of a slightly different colour for the moon then my ES 68 does maybe slightly cooler almost which I really liked.
      I also tried the ethos with my Vixen 2x Barlow on the moon and it was just as good at 13mm.
      Onto Jupiter which was just above the horizon by this time I eagerly punched in the coordinates then pressed my eyeball against the huge lense... straight away 4 moons were visible and the equatorial belts and for the first time for me the north/south polar regions.
      At this point the wife joined me and I showed her Jupiter and she quickly commented on the moons and the belts  she usually struggles finding.
      Then she commented on how clear and big the view looked.
      The detail again was incredible it was like I was observing in 3D.
      Finally I decided to have a quick look at a few DSOs.
      Orion Nebula was a treat a day always even with the moon almost directly overhead I could make out the cloud of dust surrounding the closely compacted 4 stars and a trail of dust trailing almost as good as last week with my Pentax Zoom and no moon.
      I then decided as a final observation to try for an open cluster and of course get my sketch book out to have a memento of the night.
      I decided on M48 which had a beatiful array of stars over most of the massive FOV.
      I spent a good hour sketching and still marvelled at the crispness of the FOV all the way to the edge.
      Conclusion 
      I'm very pleased with how the EP performed in all areas of my observations.
      But I'm not fussed about specifications the moment I was sold was when I looked at the bottom of the EP and got that feeling of falling in complete immersion whatever you want to call it that was priceless and I will never forget that first time.
      So no regrets buying the EP and I can't wait for many more falling/immersive moments.
      Here are some photos and the sketch of M48 enjoy and if you can buy this eyepiece ?
      Clear skies ??✨??
      Richard





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