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Rodd

Sh2-132 Data for Processing--Please show me what teh data has to offer

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3 hours ago, wimvb said:

@Rodd, do you mind if I put my version of your image on astrobin? With credit of course.

Not at all---post away

Rodd

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So Rodd, you just saved another afternoon for me! Nice data and interesting object. Again I whent for a RGB like version and used the Skarpen palette to start off (50:50 Ha+Sii in red, 16:84 Ha:Oiii in Green, 100% Oiii in blue). Here it is and as Wim @wimvb I take the liberty of posting it on Astrobin.

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS12Sign.jpg

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Just after posting it I found I could get more dust with dark nebulosity out. Maybe a bit nicer?

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS13sign.jpg

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3 hours ago, gorann said:

Maybe a bit nicer?

Yes--a bit more dust in surroundings.  I like the palette.  

Rodd

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I tried the SHO palette "manually", but it was awfull. You managed it, Ola.

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2 hours ago, Ola Skarpen said:

My try

SHO AIP scrip pixinsight

Try too make Good star colour

 

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Welcome to this revived thread Ola! A superb "try", as you call it. Very nice indeed! You have a very personal and very likable palette, with your salmon coloured (Norwegian?) nebulosity.

It inspired me to soften my version a bit, subdue the stars a tad, and bring out a little bit more dust. Still a bit more "brutal" than your version.

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS17 sign.jpg

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9 hours ago, gorann said:

Welcome to this revived thread Ola! A superb "try", as you call it. Very nice indeed! You have a very personal and very likable palette, with your salmon coloured (Norwegian?) nebulosity.

It inspired me to soften my version a bit, subdue the stars a tad, and bring out a little bit more dust. Still a bit more "brutal" than your version.

 

Thanks for the nice feedback Gøran. I might be a little too careful when I look at your photos. I will try and make a new version, as I see my preview became a bit "boring" compared to yours and all others.

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Created a new version. I've tried to bring more of the contrasts and colors in the picture. I find it hard to make the stars beautiful and clear.

 

 

rev2.1ferdig.png

Edited by Ola Skarpen
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Looks good. Only that streak in the middle looks green on my mobile phone.

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43 minutes ago, Ola Skarpen said:

 

Created a new version. I've tried to bring more of the contrasts and colors in the picture. I find it hard to make the stars beautiful and clear.

 

Very nice Ola! I like the more saturated red but I am not sure about the dust colour that have now drifted towards green. I would prefer either bluish or whitish with this RGB like palette. I was also fighting with particularly the star colour. My starfield started off with being dominated by bluish small ones (and a few red ones but no white ones). Using PS I finally marked them all and used the top part of the histogram colour-curves to move them towards white. Your starfield maybe looks a bit too pinkish.

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I reworked mine slightly in the centre of the red nebula by using Ha as lum there, It made the details a bit more subtle and maybe a better 3D feeling, or maybe not?

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS18sign.jpg

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6 minutes ago, gorann said:

Using PS I finally marked them all

Göran, it's about time you start learning to make star masks in PixInsight. ?

I think I will write a small tutorial on various ways.

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1 minute ago, wimvb said:

Göran, it's about time you start learning to make star masks in PixInsight. ?

I think I will write a small tutorial on various ways.

When I said "marked them all" you probably misunderstood me and felt really sorry for me. But, I did not spend half a day but only a few seconds on the task since it is actually an automatic procedure even in good old PS where you use the colour picker (Eyedropper tool) on one of them and the let the program select all areas with the same shade (using a slider to adjust how broad colour/brightness levels to include). Looks like this. The star mask procedure seems more complicated to me.....

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Yes Ola - that is an exceptionally pleasing image! Very nice and dusty. Are you using 100% PI?

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Thanks?

I have to teach my star mask better.
Unfortunately, I can not and use PS. I only use PI in my pictures.
My impatience is also bad, so I never spend more than 20 minutes on a picture ?

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@gorann, with the eyedropper tool you select colour, which can also include nebula or galaxy. And you have to redo for various star colours. The star mask tool, while slower, selects stars based on size and strength. And it an either target just the brightest parts, or also halos. And there are a few other methods in PixInsight to select stars, beside the star mask tool.

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Need advice @Rodd@wimvb@Ola Skarpen

I felt my image needed more dust (particularly after seeing all the dust that Ola found) and I ended up with two slightly different versions, one with bluish dust and one with graying-brown dust and I cannot decide.........

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS21(brown dust).jpg

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS20(blue dust).jpg

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7 minutes ago, gorann said:

Need advice @Rodd@wimvb@Ola Skarpen

I felt my image needed more dust (particularly after seeing all the dust that Ola found) and I ended up with two slightly different versions, one with bluish dust and one with graying-brown dust and I cannot decide......…

I Think the last one is best

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1 hour ago, gorann said:

I felt my image needed more dust (particularly after seeing all the dust that Ola found) and I ended up with two slightly different versions, one with bluish dust and one with graying-brown dust and I cannot decide...

I think you have lifted too much.  Notice how the new dust is flat--like a gray blanket.  If you used curves, use half the strength--you can always do more than one iteration.  

Rodd

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3 minutes ago, Rodd said:

I think you have lifted too much.  Notice how the new dust is flat--like a gray blanket.  If you used curves, use half the strength--you can always do more than one iteration.  

Rodd

Got your point - but should it be blue or gray?

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10 minutes ago, gorann said:

Got your point - but should it be blue or gray?

It should be brown/gold

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OK Rodd, you say brown and Ola blue so here are both with hopefully less flat dust (using curves as you suggested)

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS23(brown dust+curves).jpg

Rodd Sh2-132 RGB PS22 (curves).jpg

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