knobby Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Someone let me borrow their Pentax XF Zoom a while back. It was stunning. He thought it was on a par with his Baader Orthos for sharpness, i can't verify that claim. But it was sharper than my ES 82 Series eyepieces. And it was so well built. One eyepiece, i could definitely get by with just that one. So my vote is the Pentax XF 6.5-19.5 Zoom.+1 I'd love the Pentax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikM Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Rikm has looked through an ethos and didn't like what he saw. Interesting. So the first black mark.I certainly wouldn't say that there was anything wrong with it; Ethos are superb eyepieces by any measure you care to apply. I just find that my brain sees things in relation to the field of view rather than actual magnification. I also wear glasses when observing to correct both prescription and slight astigmatism, so eyerelief is a consideration. At this quality level it all comes down to personal preference really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Michael, in the Netherlands that is 3 eyepieces not one.Rikm I was just re acting to a comment from one member who said he had never know anyone that looked into a Ethos and didn't want one, then I came to your post. It is as you say all personal preference. This thread was only a bit of fun.John,Secondhand market in Bulgaria, there isn't one. This is one reason I have so many eyepieces, I need to sell some. The 26mm Series 5000 that came with the LX 200 is still in it's box, I dont think I have ever used it as I bought the scope and a full set of Meade SWA. Come to think of it I don't even know where it is. Knobby, That is 3 members that have gone for your choice, must be a great quality eyepiece, then it's PentaxAlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I was considering the Pentax XF zoom, but the eye relief is not good enough. I would settle for the Zeiss 6.7-25.1mm zoom:http://www.apm-telescopes.net/de/Okulare/Zoom-Okulare/Zeiss-Zoom-Okular-6.7-25.1-mm1or the Leica aspherical.http://www.apm-telescopes.de/leica-zoomokular-vario-okular-17.8-8.9mm-asph._proinfo_65509.htmlAfter all, if you have just one EP, you can spend more than on a box full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 Are you sure that is your final choice. My wife had one of these zooms delivered to her by accident. She used to sell Zeiss sports optics. sadly she send it back before I could get my grubby little paws on it. I bet it was good.Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I haven't looked through one yet, but I am itching to try one. The Leica Aspheric has a range that is a bit restrictive, but the Zeiss crosses many of the right boxes. Costly, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Zoom ep's have never really interested me but I would make an exception in the case of that Zeiss. I would imagine its a fine piece of kit! I reckon you should go for one of those Alan and report your findings back here in due course ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Zoom ep's have never really interested me but I would make an exception in the case of that Zeiss. I would imagine its a fine piece of kit! I reckon you should go for one of those Alan and report your findings back here in due course ;-)Maybe I should bite that bullet. I started it after all. I could tell the missus it saves space in the car: Just the Zeiss and a Nagler 31, instead of the whole EP kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 It sounds reasonable to me Michael, I look forward to reading your first light report !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganymede12 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Hmm, does a Barlow count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Moff Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 I've just come in from a decent viewing session and I have to change my favourite eyepiece from a tv plossl 25mm to an ethos 13mm. This thing is amazing and I was actually angry that the sun is coming up.Time to get some sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 Mr Moff,That I believe puts 13mm Ethos back out in front. Good to hear the weather is picking up. I didn't have high hopes for last night due to the heat. I was able to see all of Scorpious right down to the sting, rare in summer. Yes we have loads of clear sky but you tend to get a heat haze that stops you seeing so low down.Michael,The Zeiss zoom is not really my cup of tea, I have one zoom and that is the Antares 8mm-5mm, this has 82 degree FOV acoss the full range. Only down side is a bit of colour towards the edges. Other than that it is top draw.Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.h.f.wilkinson Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 The Antares Speers-Waler zoom has an excellent reputation. However, it covers only planetary viewing in my F/10 scope. The Zeiss lacks something in FOV, but covers most of the useful focal lengths, yielding magnifications from 80x to just over 300x. I could live with limited FOV for decades, but I could not live without a large range of magnifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 7, 2012 Author Share Posted July 7, 2012 Michael,I wouldn't mind betting the Zeiss is altogether a better eyepiece, they have made some great optics over the years, however I was disappointed with many of their Bino's which I have had a chance to try, for me they were no better than my Opitrons at a third of the price. I tried one pair that were 3000 Euros and they were only 10X42, very expensive.I just see Astronomics are giving away 3 Ethos eyepieces at the opening of their new shop, question is is it worth the cost of the flight to be there, I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul schofield Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It would probably have to be a decent zoom eyepiece for me, just to get a range of use, probably a Pentax XF or similar. If I could only have 1 ep then I would push the boat out and spend quite a bit of dosh on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melsmore Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My Baader micro guide astrometric eyepiece (12.5 mm ortho). Couldn't measure anything without it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melsmore Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My Baader micro guide astrometric eyepiece (12.5 mm ortho). Couldn't measure anything without it!Actually, I'd keep my 20mm plossl, but it would be a close call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 That's an interesting first call from Melsmore went for a special measurement eyepiece and then had a change of mind.Well last night we had some rain thank goodness, tomorrow we have been promised 40 plus, that's 104 in old moneyAlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingting44 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 difficult choice. I think if it was only one then it would be a 17mm Ethos. in my scopes this would provide enough magnification to make items reveal detail (in my 16" f4 (108x - FOV 0.92 deg) and 6" f11 (94x) - FOV 1.06 deg) and also act as a wide field (in my 6" f5 (44x - FOV 2.27 deg).I wish that you'd not asked that now.........WOW! this ep is only like £600+!!!!! holy cow!!! lol out of my lens i have got i would choose to keep my 10mm skywatcher (about £15 lol) only used my stock scopes ep's i would love to be able to afford one of these ethos's!!! im on the hunt for a new lens now but its soo hard to choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshane Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 WOW! this ep is only like £600+!!!!! holy cow!!! lol out of my lens i have got i would choose to keep my 10mm skywatcher (about £15 lol) only used my stock scopes ep's i would love to be able to afford one of these ethos's!!! im on the hunt for a new lens now but its soo hard to choose well, I could certainly not afford a new one and would have to sell at least two eyepieces to fund a used one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 The 17mm Ethos I believe draws level with the 13mm Ethos. Yes very expensive but for the moment if you have one where else can you go. I need one.Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E621Keith Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 If you find the Ethos too expensive, there's always the ES100 from OPT for 40% lessIf you find the Ethos too cheap, there's always the NAV HW from APM for 215% more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 For that money you can almost buy a APM telescope.With me I like one side of the eye piece to the other to be sharp, I mean as sharp as the center. As far as I can see only Tele-Vue offer this. I have many Meade Ep's SWa and UWA and whilst good they are not as good as the advertising states. Why advertise a 68 degree field if only 85% of it is sharp and in focus, maybe it's my eyes but to me the edges are not sharp, with TV the whole field is sharp.Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteele3 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 How much was the Ethos 13mm? £525? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan potts Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Asteele3No I was making a comment on the cost of the Nikon 100 degree eyepiece which is a lot more money. In any case you can still buy a scope for the cost of a Ethos but not an APM.Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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