black friday telescope?

[neurostar]

So there are a couple telescopes that are discounted for black friday (an american tradition where stuff is often discounted for a day or so) btu I was wondering if you guys thought they were any good. I keep hearing how you need to spend several hundred dollars on a telescope or it really isn't worth it.

Anyway, for an amateur astronomer, can I see a decent amount of space stuff with either of these?

AstroMaster 130EQ-MD (Motor Drive) Telescope (item #31051) / AstroMaster Series Telescopes / Telescopes / Products / Celestron.com

or much cheaper one

Celestron PowerScope 70mm Telescope $39.97

Thanks!!

[neurostar]

Orion SpaceProbe 3 Equatorial Reflector Telescope | Orion Telescopes

or something like this from a more reputable place??