DarkerSky Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Latest prediction is 00:58 UT 24 Sept according to UARS - brings it down in the South Pacific. Mind you, error is still up at -/+ 7 hours at the mo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonperformer Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 error is still up at -/+ 7 hours at the mo!And they expect us to believe they can get a craft within striking distance of Pluto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamespels Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 And they expect us to believe they can get a craft within striking distance of Pluto!so long as they remember not to mix up feet and metres, they should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjulian Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Most reports have been wrongly estimating the chance of getting hit as 1:3,200. The BBC are the first I have seen who tried to work out the proper odds. Unfortunately their basic maths if flawed. Multiply the world population by 3,200 and you do indeed get somewhere close to their 1:21,000,000,000,000 calculation. However they also describe how it is going to disintegrate. So unless they somehow know in advance that only one piece of debris is going to hit someone, then they are completely wrong.All that aside, I hope someone manages to get it on camera as it comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkerSky Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Most reports have been wrongly estimating the chance of getting hit as 1:3,200. Yes, I've seen several popular media reports that have misinterpreted the information from NASA and written grossly misleading articles as a result. I read a piece on the Guardian website last night that made me laugh out loud. The writer was comparing what he thought was a 1:3200 chance of being hit to things like winning the lottery. What the writer failed to grasp was that NASA was giving the 1:3200 chance that 'someone' could be hit. The chances of it hitting YOU specifically is, as you say, 1 in 21 trillion.Can just see this coming up on QI at some point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamespels Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Heh, risk and probalities are areas news reporters seem to seriously struggle with. Along with basic science units (according to the Metro this morning, "The Cern team says a neutrino beam [...] travelled 60 nanoseconds faster than the speed of light" - I know what they are trying to say but since when was ns a unit of velocity?) and economics (there are a few educated commentators like Peston but far too many seem to just spout stuff the read in Wikipedia).The Beeb having been getting particularly bad in the last few years and I really fail to see the point of the "Have Your Say" thing - prompting a group of people who are, on the whole, ignorant of the subject area to spout bull-**** as if they are subject experts.< climbs off soap box, dismounts white horse and descends ivory tower.... > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkerSky Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 I know what you mean AP now saying that RAF Fylingdales monitoring final orbit(s). Read somewhere that based on current info UARS will be visible from the UK in the south-eastern sky around 9pm tonight. Timing wildly subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB80 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Heavens above have it at 9:34 in the SE for me, it would be nice to have a more certain location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrodread Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Im in Essex. according to Heavens above Ive got 23:04. Fingers crossed X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Astrodread Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 is this really it ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1978 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Stellarium has it at 10pm, but i know thats likely wrong due to its deterioration in orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJulius Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 is this really it ????Probably not.The latest predicition set it to fall down on Africa at 3:16 UTC +/- 5 hours 24.09More info here:UARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamespels Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 That clip looks suspiciously like a video of Columbia breaking up on reentry. If it is, it's in pretty poor taste to use it to get a bit of attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 As they have no control over it it is really hard to say with any certainty exactly what is going to happen other than that it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wratty Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 according to heavens above... it dont pass over me... Norfolk England... booo hoo hoo (unless of course i have done something wrong - entirely possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJulius Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes it passes over Norfolk, here is the passes attached from heavens above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukebl Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes it passes over Norfolk, here is the passes attached from heavens above.Ah, but just because you can SEE it in Norfolk, it doesn't mean that it actually passes OVER Norfolk. It would only actually be passing directly over you if its maximum elevation was 90 degrees, which isn't the case.Chances are it will be Suffolk which cops it. Sizewell. maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJulius Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well I know that it does not directly pass overhead unless the altitude is 90 degrees, but I understood the questions as to be if it is visible from Norfolk.I am going to view it with an altitude of only 15 degrees and 30 degrees if it burns I will see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamespels Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 What latitude is Dale Farm at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukebl Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 What latitude is Dale Farm at?Dale Farm looks like the thing has hit it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamespels Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 "Have you been robbed?""No.""How can you be sure?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yes it passes over Norfolk, here is the passes attached from heavens above.Hate to break it to you bud, snip[ATTACH]68600[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbithutch Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 From NASAThis is the most recent forecast I can find. It does not predict the final path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJulius Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hate to break it to you bud, but i think Heavens above is giving bad data[ATTACH]68600[/ATTACH]Can you please point out where you get the correct data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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