Damo636 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Anyone used this Protostar flockboard. Was considering flocking the dob and came across this Protostar Telescope Making & UpgradingIt would save a lot of messing around with glue if its as simple as it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 Ok, i realise this is a slightly old thread but i thought i'd update it with my thoughts on Protostar flockboard. I flocked my 8'' dob last night using the flockboard and can honestly say its a fantastic product. I ordered 60'' of the .030" material direct from the states for a grand total of £36. Glen at Lyra Optic is selling it now in the UK. I feel a little guilty not sending the business his way as he is a top bloke and in fact advised me that it could be ordered direct from the states. I saved a few £££ by doing this but to be honest if the customs had gotten their grubby hands on it i'd have saved nothing. It took exactly 2 weeks to the day to arrive but managed to dodge customs so all good. Anyway, this stuff is so easy to use and once in it does not move. I didn't see the need for any glue and just overlapped the joints by roughly an inch. Anyway, from start to finish it took me around 2 hours to completely strip, install the flockboard, rebuild everything back into the ota and collimate the mirrors. Amazingly the collimation wasn't even that far out considering that the focuser and both mirrors were completely removed from the ota. Whether or not it makes any difference to the performance of the scope remains to be seen but it certainly looks the part. I have a couple of before and after pics below. I would give this product a 10/10 for ease of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadog Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Looking good! I've bought some of the rigid stuff for use as a dew shield. It's easy to work with but I find it's rather heavy and that puts me off using the shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thanks umadog, i had thought of that but the old camping mat foam is lighter and does the job lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadog Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 yeah, stick to camping foam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewC Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Nice job Damo. I would love to have a go at that but don't think i would be confident enough to remove the mirrors and get all back the same again. Have you noticed any improvements in the views? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Cheers Matthew. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but hopefully will by the weekend. I am hoping for an improvement in contrast to help tease out the faint fuzzies. Removing the mirrors really is not difficult. All i would say is take things nice and slow and allow yourself plenty of time if you do decide to give it a bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thanks for the link to your thread Damo, you have convinced me to have a go. I can clean the mirrors while I am at it How did you order 60" of the 0.030 stuff? I estimate I would need 43" x 30" for a 200p Dob... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbk44 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thanks for this post Damo, i'll be getting some of that soon. Oh and where can i get some fo those collimation screws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Thanks for this post Damo, i'll be getting some of that soon. Oh and where can i get some fo those collimation screws?That would be bobs knobs Home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted October 4, 2011 Author Share Posted October 4, 2011 That would be bobs knobs HomeThey are actually not Bobs Knobs Adam. See this thread http://stargazerslounge.com/member-equipment-reviews/114837-secondary-mirror-adjusters.htmlI have Bobs Knobs on the primary but fortunately i found the above thread and used the WDS thumbscrews on the secondary. They are the same thing at less than half the price. I installed the washer as well. It makes collimating of the secondary much easier and stops the thumbscrews leaving pit holes in the soft secondary holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Oh my bad for assuming, those screws seem a nice price for nearly the same thing. Did you just get your metal washer from some DIY place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 Yeah, they are called penny washers and can be bought from most hardware stores or ebay as i did. The size i used (will measure up later and post the exact size) doesn't sit out past the secondary holder like the one in the link above so a little neater. Some people use a washer cut from a milk carton but i experimented with both and found the stainless washer better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfletcher Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Hi AdzThe 030 flockboard comes in 21" width.HTHGraham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adz Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Thanks for all the help guys, I look forward to writing up a thread on useful dob mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alma Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I have some spare sheets of Protostar self-adhesive flocking paper if anyone's interested. I have an ad on UK Astro Buy& Sell #47230 with all the details. Price negotiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skills Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 pre flock:The flockingboard:post flock:Thanks for the idea Damo, I'd been meaning to flock my scope for a while. I bought 60" of flocking from Glen at Lyra Optic (who was very pleasant to speak to on the phone) for £50 and it arrived by first class post. 60" was just the right amount for a 200p and I found it easy to work with and I'm very pleased with the result. Highly recommend it!Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dwalf Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 have you managed to do a first light comparison with the flocking done yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceboy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I flocked my 250PX with the regular self adhesive flock but I can see the advantages of using this flock board is that if you ever came to selling the scope you could remove the board and use it in another scope. Great post Damo and thanks for bringing it to my attention. I bet this would make flocking refractors so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 I bet this would make flocking refractors so easy.I know Glen at Lyra Optic uses the flockboard on the refractor's he builds. It would be even simpler on a refractor than a newt, especially if the tube wasn't baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johninderby Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Works well on SCTs. I'd never use the old self-adhesive stuff for flocking an OTA again after using the Flockboard. So much easier.http://stargazerslounge.com/diy-astronomer/155372-protostar-flockboard.htmlJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo636 Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 have you managed to do a first light comparison with the flocking done The difference in contrast was immediately apparent. Dso's just looked that bit better against the background sky. One example is the Veil Nebula. Before i flocked the tube i could never detect it without a filter, now i am able to see it unaided, just. I don't know if this is down solely to the flocking or a combination of flock and now that i am using better eyepiece's. On occasion i was seeing annoying internal reflections at the eyepiece, probably from next door neighbours dog bringing their security light on and off, these are now gone also. For the low cost involved imo its definately a mod worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismangil Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Thanks for the thread, considering it myself, however £50 is quite dear compared to say the Fablon velour dc fix thing.Will have to wait a bit I suppose this flocking thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadog Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wow, that's quite an improvement, Damo! Good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charic Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 ...only just discovered this Protostar flockboard, but no link to Lyra, only a Vista print ad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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