Hi, Thanks for all the replies. It seems like there isn't really an easy way to prove this from stellar observations alone. Maybe I can use the idea of the sun moving overhead to trigger some doubts in the characters. The ultimate reveal comes from a different source, I'm just wanting ways to prod the characters in the right direction. The points raised by acey are all valid and actually form the crux of the story. The train is massive and has fields, animals, recycling systems etc. on board - plus moisture scoops mounted on the outside to extract what little moisture there is the air for use