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  1. Hi

    I am Robert, who produced the focuser project etc. And recommended the Nema17. I did not post on the thread because I am not going to start some flame war there. So these are my reasons to you for the recommendation.

    The reasons are simple. Yes, its heavy and big.

    So why did I recommend it.

    1. A stepper motor may be the most expensive single purchase, no point buying one then havong to replace it later

    2. To get enough torque it really needs to run off 12V

    3. The BY 5V geared motors are cheap, have a good deal of backlash, but if you are using a filter wheel and decent ccd, they DO NOT have enough torque to either move or hold the imaging train in place. May people go with those BUT they do not bother to test when the telescope is pointed to zenith, where the highest load is taking place.

    4. Why not the NEMA 14 or NEMA11. Good question, BUT, torque is a function of voltag e and current and resistance and magnetic force. You will find that the NEMA11 and 14 need HIGHER currents to get the same level of force as the Nema 17. Why? Because smaller maganets, less coil wires means less force, so to compensate for that you must increase the current. So the nema14 current is > 0.6 amps vs the Nema17 at 0.4A

    Does 200mA make a difference, yes, has implications on driver board choice but all HEAT is a factor of coil resistance, voltage and current, so that means the Nema11/14 will run much hotter than a NEMA17. This then has flow on effects to voltage supply, current loadin on the driver chip etc.

    The smaller motors will need to have coil power ON when not moving in order to hold a heacy imaging train in place (because torque etc is a function of size of motor, voltage, current etc etc). A larger motor always generates more torque. IS it overkill, probably not, it will work even for the most serious user.

    And yes, you can rotate the focuser so the stepper is upright over horizontal, so why would onebegin to compromise, the 11/14 are much the same cost as a 17 and if one ever got a heavier imagmeing rig then one would not have to shell out more money for another stepper.

    Anyhow, thats a brief summary of my position. Whilst a cheap one may work for some, I wanted to recommend one that works all the way from beginner to very serious.

    Cheers

    Robert

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/arduinoascomfocuserpro2diy/

     

     

    1. sulaco

      sulaco

      Hi Robert, thanks very much for taking the trouble to explain the choice of stepper. 

      I noticed with a smaller Nema 14 that the motor rotates freely with power of and was concerned that the imaging train might slip and throw off the step settings. 

      My main concern with the 17 was purely weight as I already struggle to balance the 130pds as it proves front heavy when set up. I felt happier with rotating the focuses 180• pushing the weight more centrally as I'm only using it for imaging. 

      I'm happier knowing what you've just explained. 

      You can can guarantee an opinion war when it comes to these subjects so I appreciate the PM. 

      Thanks and I'll let you know how I get on. 

      Campbell

  2. Hi Chris

    The focuser project on sourceforge that you seem to be talking about - uno + L293D and the ino file etc is not tekkydaves.... though he does have one on sourceforge the one you are referring to is definately not his

    It is a completely separate project, yes it has bluetooth, iR control, rotary encoder etc, and now wifi as well.

    Cheers

    Robert

    1. ChrisLX200

      ChrisLX200

      Oops Sorry Robert. This is just so confusing as there are so many different ones! Yes, R. Brown is the name I see so it is your sourceforge page after all!  I've been trying to keep to just one project source to avoid exactly this kind of thing.

      Chris

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