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Oh that is genius! You have gotta love the pure simple idea behind that.

No worries Iain. I knew one would pop up the moment I gave up on the idea. Surely your gonna miss the 27mm? They are so good at what they do.

  I have to admit that it is a fairly major turnaround.

Right, I guess I had better start a new thread for my new eyepiece.....

one in for sale section as well Steve

What I tell yer? Pan in the classifieds now

But what filled the new hole?............

Brace yourselves for a sudden raft of 35MM Pans to flood the market.

After a night spent looking through a 36mm 70 deg FOV yesterday, I have decided rather disappointedly, that the gains are not worth it for me.
Having listened to all the fantastic first hand advice given here, and then speaking to Pete and co in TH, I borrowed a meade 36mm 70 deg ep just to see if I got on with the exit pupil and any issues it may bring. Whilst I appreciate the characteristics of the 2 ep's are not identical, and that the meade is of a woeful quality compared to a Pan, the increase in the actual TFOV is not really enough to justify the outlay at the moment. Add to this the small, but none the less there, decrease in contrast, with a heavy heart and sense of loss I turned my back on the 35mm Pan, for my current set up at least.

If I had a bit more spare cash, I would probably have gone for it anyhow. But as we all know 'scopery funds are hard to come by, and need to be spent well. There is, was, a glaring hole in my ep line up at the 250x mark...........

The tip on the used one didn"t Pan out!!   See what I did there   The hunt goes on.....

It was the view through your Ethos that got me thinking Calvin. It was fantastic and that next week thought were about getting one. Luckily for me the time spent working out how to pay for it, also gave me time to really think about what suits my eyes. I had noticed that some nights when struggling to find the right guide stars in LP'd skies, my eyes would tire. I also noticed this a bit in the Delos when looking at the moon. I never seem to get tired eyes with the Pan or Radian though.

The advice from everyone is fantastic. I always knew that it was gonna be a borderline thing, but it is good to hear that some people get on with the mix.

I am on the lookout for a used 35mm so that I can try it out without the cost of buying new. I have been given a tip off, and I am awaiting e reply. Annoyingly I missed out on one last weekend on ABS, sold before I saw it on sunday morning. You snooze,you lose!!

I spent some time again last night between the clouds comparing the fov of the pan with the ethos and radian. I definately get on better with 68deg than with 72deg. Such a small amount in it, but enough for me to know that 82 will be too much. Hence the risk is worth taking I think.

Already done Alan. No luck yet, as expected really.

If I flex it anymore, I fear it may get a stress fracture!!

Alan, the 0.9 reduction seems to be unique to the Skywatcher CC, even FLO list it as having this property. Quite a nice side effect as it happens. It also works very well at reducing coma.

Without the cc at F5, the 27mm Pan shows a bit of the scopes inherent coma right at the edge of the fov. With the cc in and the scope now acting at F4.5, the Pan shows totally crisp stars edge to edge.  As you say John, that is where TV's come into their own, as the speed goes up.

Now if I could find a way to make the bank manager understand the value of crisp star images......

Iain, you may have just made my decision for me, with the coma corrector in place, my scope has just about the same spec as yours.

One thing that sways me away from the Meade/Maxvision is the fact that I regularly use my Skywatcher coma corrector which acts as a .9 reducer. Great for an increased fov, but it speeds the scope up to f4.5. I think the difference between the meades and the pan would be quite noticeable then.

Looking at the list prices, the ES is a £90 saving . Quite compelling..

Their is something about seeing the stop that prevents my eye from wandering around too much. I know a lot of people love the wide views, I wish I did, but I must be happy with what is most comfortable.

Here you go Mike, the build thread if you are interested. Finished pics on page 5,

http://stargazerslounge.com/topic/179535-14360mm-truss-dob/

Thanks for the info Luke. Oh this is so tricky.

I really love the 27mm Panoptic, the 35 would seem a perfect companion.

Ahh, interesting to hear your thoughts on the ES ones. Unfortunately it just makes the choice harder......

Mike, my scope is a diy copy of your Sumerian, so the balance issue I fully agree with.

Sort of considering the ES 34mm 68. But as my mate Si pointed out, I will always feel that I should of got the TV. Damn their superb optics!!

This is my concern John. It is a fair wedge of cash to drop if I get it wrong. I guess also I need to remember that for most objects the 27 is fine, and the 35 will be for the bigger targets and so probably not as widely used.

Alan, but under dark skies you find it ok?

Part of the reason for building the dob was to get out to darker sites, so yes hopefully mainly under less polluted skies. It is really frustrating as my head tells me a Nagler is the clear choice. If only my eyes agreed.

Or what about the 41mm Panoptic? With an 8mm exit pupil this would surely be to much?

I am having a bit of an EP crisis and have come to the conclusion that I much prefer the 68 deg fov to the wider fields. My eyes just seem to relax into the view better. Even my 72 deg 12mm Delos I find a little uncomfortable

I have a 27mm Panoptic and love it. I am using it in my 360/f5 dob. I would like a tiny bit more fov to frame such things as the Double cluster and M45, so I am very tempted to get a 35mm Pan to go alongside. My concern is the exit pupil size, 7mm. Do you think it would leave me with a washed out background ?

I know the sensible route is the 31mm nagler or es30, but eye comfort seems to discount these for me.