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100 deg EPs to glass wearers?

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bomberbaz

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I would actually be very interested if these are up to the mark. I think I could make good use of the 15mm and it could possibly replace 3, maybe 4 eyepieces. I dont think I would bother with the 10mm as I prefer more options lower down the scale but yeah, 15mm would be a very good asset to have. (if it is up to the job)

Steve

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alan potts

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I don't think John will see them as FLO do not deal with Meade stuff. I wonder who is making them, I will have to have a word with my friend in Sofia, I am amazed he has not told me but then he knows I don't buy Meade eyepieces any longer.

The design makes me think there was a glutt of child toy tractor tyres around.

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bomberbaz

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I don't think John will see them as FLO do not deal with Meade stuff. I wonder who is making them, I will have to have a word with my friend in Sofia, I am amazed he has not told me but then he knows I don't buy Meade eyepieces any longer.

The design makes me think there was a glutt of child toy tractor tyres around.

hehe yes they do look a little quircky alan, that said, its results that matter at the end of the day so hence my interest in them. A 15mm with 20mm ER would be great for me, I have looked at the 13mm Ethos but the 15mm ER shy'd me away from them so these would be a all new ball game as far as us speccies are concerned!

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michael.h.f.wilkinson

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If these are as good as they read on paper. They could be absolute winners IMO. 

20mm of eye relief on a 100˚ eyepiece thats phenomenal and a game changer. TV will have to respond with the T2 Ethos :D

Hoping excitedly 

Unless TV think the image quality suffers. I noted that the Meade UWA 14 I had was a touch softer at the edges (not really problematic), but had less distortion than the Naglers (both 12T4 and 17T4). There may well be similar trade-offs in terms of eye relief and AFOV, as demonstrated by the Delos line (and of course EP weight grows quickly with ER and AFOV)

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swamp thing

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That was my thoughts Michael. I believe Al Nagler said 20mm of eye relief wasn't possible on a 100˚ eyepiece keeping their usual sharpness but we will see.

I'm not writing meade off yet and am hoping they've pulled off something a bit special here. Unlikely but one never knows.

Plus I must be in the minority I actually like the look of these. ;)

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michael.h.f.wilkinson

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That was my thoughts Michael. I believe Al Nagler said 20mm of eye relief wasn't possible on a 100˚ eyepiece keeping their usual sharpness but we will see.

I'm not writing meade off yet and am hoping they've pulled off something a bit special here. Unlikely but one never knows.

Plus I must be in the minority I actually like the look of these. ;)

I seem to remember Al Nagler saying the same, but then it might also have been qualified with: "within reasonable weight, size, and price constraints"

I don't mind the look of these EPs. After all, they are for looking through, not at

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clarkpm4242

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Hi

I have quite bad short-sightedness (-11 and 2 dioptres astigmatism) and wear specs (high refractive index glass) for observing.

I thought that the 100 AFOV of the Ethos would be a problem but am fine with my 13 mm and have an 8 mm being brought over from the US.

The 15 mm eye relief is fine.

Cannot read a star chart though :(

Paul

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michael.h.f.wilkinson

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Hi

I have quite bad short-sightedness (-11 and 2 dioptres astigmatism) and wear specs (high refractive index glass) for observing.

I thought that the 100 AFOV of the Ethos would be a problem but am fine with my 13 mm and have an 8 mm being brought over from the US.

The 15 mm eye relief is fine.

Cannot read a star chart though :(

Paul

This is highly personal. For me 16mm is the limit (15.6mm of the MaxVision 20mm 68 deg was borderline), and I did not get along very well with Olly's 13mm Ethos, and preferred the views with the 12T4 Nagler. Try before you buy is probably the best policy

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jetstream

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I think Televue could make the Ethos with bigger ER, but the cost, weight.... I hope the new Meade works well, so eyeglass wearers get a chance at the 100deg experience. If they do make it work and ES jumps on the bandwagon, TV may have to respond. Great news... :grin:  Except for the value of my T1 Ethos :sad:  Oh well its only money... :rolleyes:

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bomberbaz

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I didn't say I did not like the look of them, I think I said they were a little quircky. Anyway I can't wait to get a try of one of these to see if its a game changer or not.

Half of me hopes not, I have only just redone my EP case again fgs  :rolleyes:

Steve

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alan potts

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It will be interesting to see if they are any good but who will admit buying one, very designer inspired eyepieces.  Meade do advertise well but their marketing department sometimes writes cheques that the engineering ares of the company cannot cash. I've just tested one of their 40mm S Plossl eyepieces from the Series 5000 range, very nice at F10 in the LX and as they say, Tack sharp, but at F5.26 ( not the worlds fastest scope) the wheels came off.

Alan

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bomberbaz

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seems they have released something like this before although this is the first time I have seen it http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MEADE-XWA-Xtreme-Wide-Angle-Telescope-Eyepiece-14mm-100-2-AFOV-EMS-Free-/171465484916?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec23aa74 Different focal lengths and also must less ER but still 100 degree EP. 

actually looking at this and the one just released they look very similar so not sure what they have done differently to gain the extra 5.5mm ER

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John

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Meade have had a 100 degree range for a while but these look like a re-packaging of those.

Personally I'd be surprised if they can squeeze more than around 15mm eye relief out of the 100 degree design.

I'm hoping to receive some more of the Skywatcher Myriad 100 degree eyepieces from FLO to try and report on in the near future so that should be interesting :smiley:

There is so much re-badging going on these days you can't really tell what the origins of the glass you are looking through are. Perhaps it doesn't matter if it does the job well though ? :smiley:

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swamp thing

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Meade have had a 100 degree range for a while but these look like a re-packaging of those.

Personally I'd be surprised if they can squeeze more than around 15mm eye relief out of the 100 degree design.

I'd agree John. the one thing that has me hoping that maybe they have found a way is one of them states 19.7mm eye relief. That sounds like someone has measured that one. the 0.7mm seeming to be an unusual thing to quote otherwise.

I think their older line had 15mm of eye relief didn't it?

Still keeping my fingers well and truly crossed that this isn't just a marketing ploy to get attention..........

Time will tell 

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bomberbaz

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Still keeping my fingers well and truly crossed that this isn't just a marketing ploy to get attention..........

Time will tell 

+1 on that, I am just wondering if Opticstar will have them in stock as didn't they recently change to meade stockists?

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