craigfoot Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 HiSo finally a clear night and an opportunity to check out some stars and see what I'd learnt so far.Picked put most of the constellations and then went for m31 and m13.What I found were very hazy cloud like areas. . is this is?? It's sorta what I expected for m31 and pleased I found it, look forward to getting the scope on it now. But o expected more from m13, was expecting a mass of stars??Are my expectations too high?!I'm using some Olympus 10x50 and celestron 15x70 by the way.CheersCraig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker1947 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 M31 is just going to be a grey smudged, quite a bit bigger than other grey smudges like m81 or m51, but m13 through a scope is defined stars, i suspect through Bins another grey smudge....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dwalf Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 makes a massive difference if your under good skies, first time i took my scope to a dark sight was like i had, for the first time, just taken the cover off the end of the scope, totally blown away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigfoot Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing in the scope now I know where they are, guess I just expected more of m13 through the binos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 m31 and m13.What I found were very hazy cloud like areas. . is this is?? It's sorta what I expected for m31Afraid so, yes!M31 is a very 'extended' * object, so the bigger your binos are and the darker your skies become, the better it is seen.* 'extended' can be as big as the moon and/or lots more ! Depending on your light bucket !!Sometimes I think the great pleasure of M31 is how much can be seen with unaided eye, thougts of how far away it is and how good the sky/light pollution is(not) on any given night M13 tho' is a very different kettle of fish It will be a very -VERY ** tiny hazy blob to the unaided eye,it will be a slightly larger tiny hazy blob in binos.to see some of its stars needs a 'scope. ymmv.** so very small that you will wonder if it is a few stars close together that you cant quite resolve ne.but when you get your binos on some other 'close groups of stars' you will see that you can resolve them in binos whereas you couldnt ne.M13 isnt like that !does that help or obfuscate !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigfoot Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks. . it confirms that I did see what I thought I saw. . . any suggestions on good binocular targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The Double Cluster is nice in binoculars, as is M42 when it arrives.Have a look at:www.binocularsky.com, very handy resource and should give you some suggestions.StuSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Kemble's Cascade is another nice binocular target, although perhaps not brilliantly positioned currently.A scan around Cygnus and Cassiopeia is always worthwhile too, especially under dark skies.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshie79 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Open clusters tend to be a better bet for resolving in bins than globulars; try the following:M44- that is a mass of stars!M35 - resolves wellM41 (below Sirius)- that shows several stars despite being quite lowThe Double Cluster and M34 nearbyThe three clusters in Auriga- they all resolve to some extent in my bins, but need a good night to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger1895 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I prefer to view M45 The Pleiades through bins rather than a scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinocularSky Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 A few more "better in binos" targets:Cr 70, Mel 20, Mel 111, Mel 186, Cr 65, IC 4665, The Leaping Minnow, Cr 399 , Stock2And, for our cousins in the southern colonies IC 2391, NGC 6231 and its surrounding region, IC 2602, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul73 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 A few more "better in binos" targets:,Thanks SteveSome great targets there. I've missed out on the minnow and Collinder 65. Loving the BinocularSky website btw.Just to add to the list. Whilst in the Double Cluster / Muscle Man area. Kembles Cascade is another favourite "better by bino" target.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiltonstar Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Don't forget to look for the two companion galaxies to M31, which you should manage if your bins are up to it and tripod mounted. Both were clearly visible here last night and also M33 (Triangulum) which is another galaxy well worth looking for.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinocularSky Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Kembles Cascade is another favourite "better by bino" target.It's one of my favourites as well, but I didn't mention it because "Big Mak" already had M33 (Triangulum) which is another galaxy well worth looking for.Yes, it's an object that is usually easier in 15-quid binoculars than in 50-quid telescopes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Plenty of suggestions, so I won't add any more, except to agree that Kemble's Cascade well worth a look in the bins! Surprised myself by it the other night while doing some work in neighboring Perseus looking for faint nebulae, drifted on to the the Cascade, and thought "Wow, that's cool!" and then, "Oh, that's a vertical Kemble's Cascade!"While in Orion, check out the belt area and the trails of stars leading you up to Gemini or Taurus. Streams of stars to get lost in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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